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paranormal dimensions is a regular

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feature on mondays on the paranormal uk

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radio network any opinions or comments

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made by any guests are their own and

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they do not necessarily reflect any of

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the presenters or networks opinions

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whatever or whoever it is that haunts

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that house the manifestations are the

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most powerful and evil in their

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they all mentioned

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this is sasha christie and you're

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listening to the paranormal uk radio

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network the uk's biggest paranormal

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network and this is paranormal

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dimensions with david young for me

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this is the kind of show that i like

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doing most where you basically just have

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a freewheeling discussion have a chance

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to go off on topics that's what's going

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to make you an outstanding player in the

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hello and welcome to the show thank you

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for the introduction sasha and thank you

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for those kind words peter robbins now

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sasha will be back shortly she'll be

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joining myself and juliet gregson you

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may or may not remember that we did a

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show called paranormal truth earlier in

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the year so this is going to be

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paranormal truth and it's a halloween

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special since it's that time of year and

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the nights are closing in and the

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weather's getting colder

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so before i introduce sasha and juliet

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just like to say um if you've got any

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comments or anything you'd like to say

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or any requests etc

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if you'd like to contact me at any time

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my email address is david young 2qn at

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yahoo.com.uk

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right as i said it's a halloween special

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also a paranormal truth too

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and these are the two ladies that i'm

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bringing back it's sasha christie and

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juliette gregson you may know that they

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often help me out with co-hosting so

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we're brought back together again and um

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i hope we can find some interesting

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subjects to come up with and uh i hope

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you enjoy it hello girls how you doing

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all right mate

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all righty

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my favorite ladies of the night oh no i

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shouldn't say that my favorite ladies of

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halloween

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[Laughter]

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my favorite witches so i'm not saying it

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no i'm not joking how are you

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you're right

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[Laughter]

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yeah good yeah

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did you

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good keeping busy i've been writing

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stuff for the local rag local newspaper

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and she hadn't replied in like three

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days and i was like hello

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hello claire have you got my emails

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because she's done that before and she

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and she reported she said i've got them

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i'll send you a schedule of when they're

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going to be in the paper it was like i

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was just thinking are my emails working

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so i was emailing people

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have you got my email

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yeah

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i mean if it's anything like me i mean

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i'm getting stuff i just can't keep up

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with it all and it's you're probably the

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same session

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and i suddenly remember i thought oh my

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god

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i didn't answer so and so or

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you know it's sort of

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you know you forget things completely in

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um you know i know it happens to me

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but well i don't know i'm messenger all

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the time now so i find myself going on

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it i'll see there's a lot of messages so

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i kind of from one message to another

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being efficient and you know like

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replying and then i get all these

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replies all at once and i'm like oh i'm

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running away yeah i know well i spent a

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lot of time on telegram now oh you know

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not so much on facebook and um just

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trying to keep up with all the telegram

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stuff is a nightmare

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you know yeah we're talking about

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nightmares is that with it's the

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halloween week

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we're on here to celebrate and talk

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yeah oh yeah that was the plan unless

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you've got any other planes

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i'm just literally winging it so hard at

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the moment

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[Laughter]

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i i guess a good way to start off this

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show for the halloween week is um

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i guess we've all got our favorite

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movies and books and things i mean what

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would your favorite movie say be of the

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things about halloweeny type things um

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and i don't mean the halloween slasher

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films

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you know because that's not kind of what

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halloween's about is it really it was

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just like a face mask you know i mean

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sort of ghosty sort of films

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one of my favorites is um and people

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think it's that cheesy but i don't care

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the others with nicole kidman

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and i think she's being haunted but in

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actual fact

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she's dead yeah it's the reverse isn't

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it yeah yeah okay and i actually feel

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like that sometimes i actually think is

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it i'm am i dead is this

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this place also

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a little weird

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yeah i mean it's like you said i mean

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but they're around us all the time

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anyway though aren't they

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yeah according to my understanding

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anyway

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yeah

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sls camera apps that maps people out you

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know and uh absolutely crapped

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themselves

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and put the camera on in the living room

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and this little figure popped up by the

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i am an idiot

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your favorite films i was about to say

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that was a jolly good choice damn good

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film mine's slightly more

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rosemary's baby oh yeah i remember that

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it's clever because you never actually

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see anything

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it's all what your mind conjures

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and i think sometimes

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that is the scariest thing

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your own head

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yeah

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um the haunting of hill house the

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original one the other black and white

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because there's not really much that

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goes on in that it's all suggested yeah

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is that the old vinson price one

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no no no no i can't remember the actress

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um but there's just like a bit of

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effects where the walls are kind of

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breathing a little bit and there's some

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banging going on and she's in the bed

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and she thinks she's holding her

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sister's hands up but then you realize

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that her sister's at the other side of

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the room so whose hand is she holding

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yeah um

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i was a teenager when i watched that and

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i was so spooked out by it it was just

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all my imagination though yeah they're

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probably the best type of films really

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the ones that are a psychological type

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horror aren't they

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well i've mentioned well i think one of

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my favorites is um stephen king the

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stand well it wasn't stephen king it was

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his story no sorry not the stan

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that's another book

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the shining is what i'm actually

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thinking of

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but then i wasn't a golden mention

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understand which was like an epic i

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don't know if they've really sort of

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managed to put that out on the film as

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such yet

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you know like 20 million hours long

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wasn't it yeah yeah that's right but the

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shiny i would say is probably my

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probably one of my favorite sort of

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spooky films

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you know apart from our old favorite the

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exorcist which i think everyone sort of

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you know brilliant feel when it first

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came out

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you know everyone was walking out the

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cinema and feeling the illness

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i'm not too sure if i ever thought about

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the cinema you know the exorcist i think

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the first time i ever saw that was on a

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you know i might have um other pictures

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i can't actually remember

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it chads

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would be hsc you remember those

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i like the thing i think the capricorn

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the thing the original yeah

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you know like old

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but it's still good for the

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but anyway the special effects in that

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are absolutely freaking amazing

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and they have stood the test of time as

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well and the story is great i absolutely

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love that film yeah i'll tell you i used

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to love the old hammer horror films as

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well i mean i used to go to the cinema

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regularly to see those old draculas and

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the you know christopher lee and pikachu

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and all that sort of stuff you know

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it's blood sort of pop popcorn uh horror

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but it was fantastic yeah they were sort

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of great the their own genre what they

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that was great

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oh but there was all the eighties ones

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there was like phantasm wasn't there and

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what else was that extro do you remember

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extraordinary seeing that no i don't

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think i've seen those oh my god it's

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like a bad acid trip and a fortnight in

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a bad balloon honest to god there's a

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teacher and it's somebody's got like a

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fake head on but the walking

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kind of they're like backwards all right

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on their feet but this kind of like you

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know like the hypermobility people who

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can dislocate their arms

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so the face is actually pointing up but

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it makes it the the prosthetics and what

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it look like the head's pointing down so

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that it's all bowed oh it's so ugly and

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rancid and then there's this little

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dwarf running around and all kinds of

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mad stuff going on

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and

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it's this woman she gets a tap smiley

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thing and it puts a

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like a weird tube down the throat and

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then she lies on the floor and she's

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obviously been impregnated by this thing

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and the baby grows into a full-size

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person in like about five you know in

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like a couple of minutes

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so that that's all but it's all all

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special effects so i love all that

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what was the name of the film again

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extra x-t-r-o

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it is absolutely

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i'm just trying to

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say i'm going to check that out yeah i

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think i remember seeing the vhs the

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covers for that well i don't know if i

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saw the film you know it's

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well my dad's special effects guy was me

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so when i was a kid all that was going

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on in our house was anything to do with

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those films and how they were made and

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my dad doing his own stuff so

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you know it was like i watched howling

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when there was about nine oh that was a

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werewolves ever since

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because the what's up right through the

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trees and that's the only bet i can

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remember and just like burned into my

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brain

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scanners were the guys that exploded

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another good one that was a david

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cronenberg film wouldn't it

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yeah so my dad was into all that kind of

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stuff so it was just all going on yeah i

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remember seeing scanners i think there

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was there was two films together like

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that's when i used to get two movies at

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once you know in the same program wasn't

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it i remember seeing scanners and there

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was another good one that's oh i can't

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think what the one anyway but yeah

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scanners was a good film oh what that

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creature remember that one

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the

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i want my cake peculiar it's my birthday

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i want it now you know

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yeah no i don't remember

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like four different short flips and it

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was done by steven spielberg oh stephen

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king and he's in it actually because

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there's a meteorite that hits the ground

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and everything gets covered in green

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stuff including him

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[Music]

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get these written down she'll take some

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notes of some of these things or

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obviously i've probably missed a few

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that's what i'm doing absolute classic

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yeah i thought you meant you mentioned

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werewolves i'll tell you one of the good

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films well i thought it was good at the

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time was when um remember um

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oh my god what's his name i forget his

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name slipped in mine now he was always

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up here and drunk on

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some of the shows oh god you know

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they'll come back to me

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i'll agree

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that's right oliver reed did a fantastic

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weird wolf film because he's got that

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sort of look anyway

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well he already had that sort of look in

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his in his younger days yeah a lot of a

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wolfy sort of face

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yeah but i think it was cursed of the

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werewolf it was called and in its day it

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was brilliant

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you know

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because they were sort of all color the

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early color sort of horror films because

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they used to sort of make them in black

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and white didn't they

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yeah

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and my favorite film used to be dracula

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you know the old uh vincent price

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peter kushner films yeah i mean

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christopher lee was great as a dracula

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thing uh and also i mean some of the old

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bill of the ghostly ones

349
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although they look a bit comical now but

350
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they still had their creepy moments you

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know they they had an atmosphere about

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them

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you know oh but i think the

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funniest thing that i ever saw when i

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was a child was nosferatu

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right i mean my sister so it was on

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monday in the afternoon and we watched

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it and it was absolutely hysterical how

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was that it's that silent film isn't it

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the violent movie we were like really

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little

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probably i was probably about eight so

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she live in about six and it was the

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horseless carriage

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going up the path where they just kind

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of like moved it a little bit and filmed

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and moved it a little bit in film but it

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was all shonky and all over the place

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and now like a look at it nothing it's

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incredible really for the time but we

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just thought it was hysterical i mean

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that was i think it was one of the

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earliest movies wasn't it made actually

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yeah

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very early

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yeah but yeah before all the talkies and

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all that i think it was

378
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well i think it they released it a

379
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little while ago in the west end didn't

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they i believe

381
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no idea i don't know i have to show it

382
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on the big screen again i'm sure they

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did

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it's mad in it i was just thinking then

385
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oh my god when i was little they were

386
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still showing uh black and white

387
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no talky movies on the tv regularly

388
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that's nuts isn't it yeah that's what it

389
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is what were the old piano playing in

390
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the background

391
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yeah

392
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harold

393
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and lauren harding

394
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what about youtube yeah

395
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you got any really old favorites that

396
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you remember

397
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i think some of them you've already

398
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discussed

399
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er

400
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lots of black and white

401
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more watching on telly than at the

402
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cinema

403
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but

404
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sort of thinking some of the people that

405
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have actually visited my hometown about

406
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put back laurel and hardy days

407
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um

408
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conan arthur doyle i found out i

409
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actually visited in 1920

410
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spiritualism

411
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harry houdini appeared in 1905.

412
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so

413
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who has visited and done weird and

414
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wonderful things here yeah i think a lot

415
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of people don't realize that these

416
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people were actually into spiritualism

417
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and all sorts of things weren't they

418
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paranormal

419
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definitely

420
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looking back and thinking sunday

421
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afternoon

422
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it's raining

423
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what's on telly it was usually bbc two i

424
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think and it was like

425
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you'd be there comfy cushions bean bag

426
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i remember being taken to port marion by

427
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my parents on holiday

428
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and it was like this is prisoner and i'm

429
00:16:56,230 --> 00:16:54,320
just looking at my dad like the hell is

430
00:16:59,030 --> 00:16:56,240
he talking about yeah and after i've

431
00:17:01,030 --> 00:16:59,040
watched it it was like oh i get it now

432
00:17:05,029 --> 00:17:01,040
why you made me stand on the chessboard

433
00:17:07,029 --> 00:17:05,039
and then chase me down the beach

434
00:17:09,350 --> 00:17:07,039
but they were very liberal in that

435
00:17:12,470 --> 00:17:09,360
respect i was allowed to watch yeah

436
00:17:14,710 --> 00:17:12,480
basically i wanted but was that was that

437
00:17:16,549 --> 00:17:14,720
would you say that was in the paranormal

438
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genre

439
00:17:20,069 --> 00:17:18,319
it was a bit weird was prisoner but then

440
00:17:21,990 --> 00:17:20,079
again when you sort of read up

441
00:17:23,750 --> 00:17:22,000
about the chap he wrote it and obviously

442
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it was patrick

443
00:17:27,110 --> 00:17:25,520
mcgoon they forgot this wrong i'm sorry

444
00:17:28,549 --> 00:17:27,120
yeah patrick mcgoon was the star and

445
00:17:30,390 --> 00:17:28,559
also i think he wrote wrote it or

446
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something

447
00:17:34,150 --> 00:17:32,400
yeah people today are still discussing

448
00:17:36,390 --> 00:17:34,160
what the hell he meant you know it's

449
00:17:37,990 --> 00:17:36,400
like the last episode is like was he

450
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running the place was he not running the

451
00:17:42,549 --> 00:17:40,320
place i mean opening scene is one of the

452
00:17:45,590 --> 00:17:42,559
best ever that's if i ever have to quit

453
00:17:47,350 --> 00:17:45,600
a job that's what i want to do yeah well

454
00:17:49,990 --> 00:17:47,360
the thing was you didn't know what his

455
00:17:50,950 --> 00:17:50,000
name was did you in it no no but did you

456
00:17:52,870 --> 00:17:50,960
know that

457
00:17:54,230 --> 00:17:52,880
prior to that series i know we've got

458
00:17:56,630 --> 00:17:54,240
off the paranormal ball a little bit

459
00:17:59,029 --> 00:17:56,640
here but prior to that series he was he

460
00:18:01,110 --> 00:17:59,039
was in a series called danger man

461
00:18:03,110 --> 00:18:01,120
where he played a secret agent

462
00:18:05,510 --> 00:18:03,120
so it makes you wonder if the prisoner

463
00:18:07,990 --> 00:18:05,520
was actually the same character

464
00:18:09,430 --> 00:18:08,000
in a different series where you didn't

465
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you know but it sort of didn't refer

466
00:18:14,710 --> 00:18:11,760
back to his old series sort of thing

467
00:18:16,549 --> 00:18:14,720
yeah that's why i always looked for that

468
00:18:18,390 --> 00:18:16,559
you know it's just interesting being

469
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sort of

470
00:18:23,350 --> 00:18:21,039
it's like i didn't you know sashimi you

471
00:18:26,150 --> 00:18:23,360
talking about your dad that's like wow

472
00:18:28,549 --> 00:18:26,160
i would have loved that he was like

473
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it's just fun to

474
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it's like my dad used to work for a

475
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hypnotist which i've talked about before

476
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so i used to get to go and watch the

477
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show so that was to me it was normal

478
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but try and explain that to somebody

479
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else and to kind of tell the red and

480
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you've got to be a certain age to you

481
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you get it

482
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but it's a bit like this the hinge of

483
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that's funny

484
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but it is sort of thinking

485
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as well like wow we've had some pre i

486
00:19:14,310 --> 00:19:12,480
know i have and i know sasha's we

487
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there's some unusual upbringing which is

488
00:19:18,630 --> 00:19:16,000
kind of good

489
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more open to the weird and wonderful

490
00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:20,880
world that we inhabit

491
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well my dad's a complete atheist he was

492
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like well when you're dead you're dead

493
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that's it look there's nothing even says

494
00:19:30,950 --> 00:19:28,720
it on page i'm like you just

495
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you know like backing up the wrong tree

496
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with me you know i mean then they made

497
00:19:36,390 --> 00:19:34,080
me mama we'll talk about all sorts of

498
00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:36,400
weird stuff and you just walked on fire

499
00:19:41,590 --> 00:19:39,440
yeah i mean when his time comes he may

500
00:19:43,909 --> 00:19:41,600
well get a shock there might he yeah

501
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thank you earlier

502
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:45,840
you think oh it is real

503
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or oh we're wrong on it

504
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[Laughter]

505
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he brought home like a eight-foot

506
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can of beer complete with foam coming

507
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out the top which was totally hollow

508
00:20:02,470 --> 00:20:00,799
and it was our garden for ages and we

509
00:20:06,070 --> 00:20:02,480
all the kids we were just all playing in

510
00:20:07,909 --> 00:20:06,080
it it was giant it was off some tv

511
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um oh just

512
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just mad chaos

513
00:20:14,390 --> 00:20:12,159
giant chickens puppets he did a lot of

514
00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:14,400
animatronics because he did um

515
00:20:18,630 --> 00:20:17,200
tumble down farm and um

516
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cool

517
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oh no no no what's the one with the

518
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dragon and um neil anderson was the

519
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wizard

520
00:20:27,669 --> 00:20:25,679
oh i know what you mean and i don't

521
00:20:29,830 --> 00:20:27,679
think it would happen no you got me on

522
00:20:32,310 --> 00:20:29,840
that yeah i know what you mean and i

523
00:20:34,310 --> 00:20:32,320
can't think of it either way

524
00:20:37,510 --> 00:20:34,320
and that was it because we made a puddle

525
00:20:39,430 --> 00:20:37,520
uh in our kitchen and we all did bits

526
00:20:41,029 --> 00:20:39,440
and bobs of whatever was going on so he

527
00:20:43,590 --> 00:20:41,039
did all the puppets

528
00:20:45,750 --> 00:20:43,600
all the animatronics for

529
00:20:47,669 --> 00:20:45,760
kids programs on yorkshire television

530
00:20:49,990 --> 00:20:47,679
and he did sort of all the fires and

531
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things like that in um

532
00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:52,080
emmerdale and blah blah blah

533
00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:53,840
taggart and

534
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uh shroud for a nightingale all kinds of

535
00:21:00,310 --> 00:20:56,960
stuff

536
00:21:01,750 --> 00:21:00,320
so yeah um he even had a dead sheep in

537
00:21:06,149 --> 00:21:01,760
his living room that he was doing for

538
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:08,149
not taxidermy i think he was wanting

539
00:21:11,590 --> 00:21:10,559
they wanted him to make it move you know

540
00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:11,600
like

541
00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:15,520
what the hell

542
00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:17,120
did you find yourself sort of being

543
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it was just normal and like you're

544
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dabbing and

545
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like vanishing with kneeling for days on

546
00:21:29,270 --> 00:21:27,840
end and coming back you know like hung

547
00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:29,280
over

548
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you know like

549
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i could only imagine

550
00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:34,559
um so yeah

551
00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:36,000
put lots of

552
00:21:40,149 --> 00:21:38,640
sort of famous people around i would be

553
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:40,159
seeing them where he worked because you

554
00:21:43,190 --> 00:21:41,600
could just go in and wander around it

555
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:43,200
didn't matter

556
00:21:48,470 --> 00:21:45,840
you just meet any anyone and everyone

557
00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:48,480
yeah so i just have a very different

558
00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:49,840
view about

559
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famous people and i don't i don't get

560
00:21:56,149 --> 00:21:53,600
any that

561
00:21:56,830 --> 00:21:56,159
like oh my god oh my god it's them you

562
00:21:59,590 --> 00:21:56,840
know

563
00:22:01,510 --> 00:21:59,600
it's just like all special effects have

564
00:22:03,430 --> 00:22:01,520
been ruined for life and meeting

565
00:22:07,190 --> 00:22:03,440
someone's favorite

566
00:22:08,710 --> 00:22:07,200
like oh thanks for stealing all my joy

567
00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:08,720
well i talked about special effects i'll

568
00:22:11,270 --> 00:22:09,760
tell you what

569
00:22:13,029 --> 00:22:11,280
have you had a chance to watch the

570
00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:13,039
walking dead either of you or if you're

571
00:22:17,830 --> 00:22:15,760
not wanting to or i don't like zombies

572
00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:17,840
so no i don't watch it no i'll tell you

573
00:22:21,029 --> 00:22:19,039
i'll tell you what the effects are

574
00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:21,039
amazing in it though

575
00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:23,039
probably it's all the

576
00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:26,000
people who could get the bodies and then

577
00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:27,840
do weird things and it just

578
00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:30,000
freaks me out and then they're all so

579
00:22:34,950 --> 00:22:32,400
fast now what happened to this is slow

580
00:22:51,350 --> 00:22:34,960
zombies i stand a chance against slow

581
00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:52,950
i tried to watch world war z and

582
00:22:55,420 --> 00:22:54,320
couldn't even get through that without

583
00:22:57,590 --> 00:22:55,430
sitting on dave's head

584
00:23:00,549 --> 00:22:57,600
[Laughter]

585
00:23:02,310 --> 00:23:00,559
i mean the thing is the actual stuff

586
00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:02,320
if you i mean you can take away the

587
00:23:06,549 --> 00:23:04,080
ridiculousness of it because i can't it

588
00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:06,559
is kind of ridiculous but then the game

589
00:23:10,470 --> 00:23:08,400
when you look at the way the world seems

590
00:23:13,270 --> 00:23:10,480
to be going it's not quite so ridiculous

591
00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:13,280
is it you know no and and try and put

592
00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:15,120
yourself into that position that it was

593
00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:16,320
actually real

594
00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:18,720
and it would be absolutely

595
00:23:22,070 --> 00:23:20,799
yeah i'd be dead i can't run that

596
00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:22,080
quickly

597
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:23,440
no i mean it would be absolutely

598
00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:24,960
terrifying wouldn't it yeah if you

599
00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:26,720
imagine that you're like yeah no i have

600
00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:29,200
a big gun

601
00:23:32,549 --> 00:23:30,799
well yeah yeah i mean in the walking

602
00:23:34,149 --> 00:23:32,559
dead always

603
00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:34,159
whacking them on their head or putting

604
00:23:38,390 --> 00:23:35,679
arrows through their eyes and stuff like

605
00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:38,400
that it's um i'm sure

606
00:23:42,390 --> 00:23:39,760
that if there were the three of us

607
00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:42,400
behind a barrier or whatever we would

608
00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:45,039
fight to the best of our abilities

609
00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:47,120
of course you'd have to be for your own

610
00:23:48,950 --> 00:23:48,320
survival

611
00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:48,960
but

612
00:23:54,870 --> 00:23:50,799
you know that's very nice of me to

613
00:24:00,789 --> 00:23:57,590
is any use

614
00:24:02,870 --> 00:24:00,799
that kind of situation because nowhere

615
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:02,880
i freak out everything you know i'm like

616
00:24:05,669 --> 00:24:04,400
no no no

617
00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:05,679
freak out

618
00:24:09,909 --> 00:24:07,919
no no i turn and i say

619
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:09,919
sasha and you get yeah and i'd be like

620
00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:11,840
it's all special effects it's not real

621
00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:13,120
and you go

622
00:24:16,149 --> 00:24:14,320
maybe okay

623
00:24:17,830 --> 00:24:16,159
and just remember

624
00:24:19,269 --> 00:24:17,840
victor just say that you're a sims

625
00:24:20,789 --> 00:24:19,279
character in the game and you're gonna

626
00:24:23,110 --> 00:24:20,799
win and they'll be like

627
00:24:23,909 --> 00:24:23,120
actually believe that i am so i'll do

628
00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:23,919
that

629
00:24:29,430 --> 00:24:26,159
yeah you get it's just misdirection in a

630
00:24:31,510 --> 00:24:29,440
good way yeah but no imagine it's not uh

631
00:24:33,029 --> 00:24:31,520
you know imagine it's actually real do

632
00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:33,039
you think you'd get to a point where it

633
00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:34,880
wasn't terrifying anymore to see all

634
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:36,159
these things running about and that

635
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:37,520
you're smashing them over the head or

636
00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:40,080
whatever uh do you get you get so used

637
00:24:44,870 --> 00:24:42,400
to it like they seem to in the tv show

638
00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:44,880
um david david i love him blackpool this

639
00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:46,320
is the kind of thing you see on a friday

640
00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:47,440
night

641
00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:49,120
well i apologize to all the people

642
00:24:52,549 --> 00:24:51,120
living in blackpool but you're the devil

643
00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:52,559
yet they said that no they would be

644
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:53,919
agreeing

645
00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:56,000
uh yeah

646
00:25:00,870 --> 00:24:58,240
there's certain spots that probably i

647
00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:00,880
can think of and probably

648
00:25:05,830 --> 00:25:04,390
it's like

649
00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:05,840
should i walk here with with no

650
00:25:10,310 --> 00:25:08,240
protection you know with the

651
00:25:12,390 --> 00:25:10,320
these areas throughout england scotland

652
00:25:13,669 --> 00:25:12,400
and wells that you just don't venture

653
00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:13,679
out

654
00:25:16,789 --> 00:25:15,200
it's true well yeah i mean i suppose

655
00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:16,799
that's the same anywhere in the world i

656
00:25:20,710 --> 00:25:19,200
mean so you say that anyways there's

657
00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:20,720
places in london there's probably places

658
00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:22,559
around canberry island yeah or what

659
00:25:27,029 --> 00:25:24,640
we've been walking about at night

660
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:27,039
you know it's also as quiet as it is

661
00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:29,360
but i'm sure it happens anywhere

662
00:25:32,070 --> 00:25:30,159
um

663
00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:32,080
but there you go it's just well i think

664
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:34,000
a lot of the a lot of um

665
00:25:38,390 --> 00:25:35,840
the horror is in your mind anyway isn't

666
00:25:41,029 --> 00:25:38,400
it the terror that you feel um that's

667
00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:41,039
that's what i found in the past

668
00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:43,279
that that scene where they're in that

669
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:45,760
house and then all of those zombies come

670
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:47,200
right there's like

671
00:25:50,950 --> 00:25:48,720
hundreds of them

672
00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:50,960
and they get in the water and they're in

673
00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:52,320
the boat and they're getting away on the

674
00:25:59,190 --> 00:25:54,720
bar and then all them zombies it's just

675
00:26:01,110 --> 00:25:59,200
completely insane savage and fast yeah i

676
00:26:02,390 --> 00:26:01,120
thought i was gonna have a heart attack

677
00:26:05,269 --> 00:26:02,400
yeah

678
00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:05,279
it honestly like the anxiety and my

679
00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:08,320
heart rate is ridiculous i mean i

680
00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:10,480
know that it's not real probably better

681
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,950
yeah

682
00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:19,110
now well i'll say i can remember an old

683
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:20,559
one of the old hammer horror films

684
00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:22,320
called plague of the zombies it was

685
00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:24,240
nothing like some of these little ones

686
00:26:28,870 --> 00:26:26,880
uh you know the effects and the makeup

687
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:28,880
and that's it's phenomenal what they do

688
00:26:34,390 --> 00:26:31,919
now yeah you know oh but

689
00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:34,400
why how could we not even remember this

690
00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:36,640
one with carol anne

691
00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:49,350
wow

692
00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:51,679
it is good this there's a lot to be said

693
00:26:57,350 --> 00:26:54,640
for some of the hammer ones and for the

694
00:26:59,029 --> 00:26:57,360
sort of weird 80s ones

695
00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:59,039
they they were great they all sets them

696
00:27:01,909 --> 00:27:00,240
that they used to use in the hammer

697
00:27:03,350 --> 00:27:01,919
films they were probably all cardboard

698
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:03,360
and that they look fantastic the old

699
00:27:06,789 --> 00:27:05,200
castles and all the castle dracula and

700
00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,799
all that you know they had a sort of

701
00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:08,480
atmosphere about

702
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:10,159
and of course christopher lee was a

703
00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:12,240
regular wasn't he but he did other ones

704
00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:14,080
like rasputin and stuff that was a good

705
00:27:19,029 --> 00:27:17,360
feel oh that was a good one yeah

706
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:19,039
vaguely remember that

707
00:27:21,909 --> 00:27:20,640
i'll tell you what one of the best ones

708
00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:21,919
was that dennis wheatley i don't know if

709
00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:24,080
you've ever read dennis wheatley stories

710
00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:25,039
books

711
00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:27,360
um yeah the devil rides out was probably

712
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:29,440
one of the best ones they did

713
00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:30,480
um

714
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:32,000
i wrote them this actually but i do

715
00:27:35,510 --> 00:27:33,520
remember reading them because my mum

716
00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:35,520
used to read all these books and like

717
00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:37,120
our house was just

718
00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:39,279
stacks of books everywhere

719
00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:41,520
uh my mum would read about three or four

720
00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:44,159
a week so she had all them

721
00:27:47,269 --> 00:27:44,960
uh

722
00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:47,279
it's already done a few danny sweetly

723
00:27:52,149 --> 00:27:49,679
and um

724
00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:52,159
oh and uh eric von daniken

725
00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:53,600
oh yeah

726
00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:55,120
eric like

727
00:27:58,230 --> 00:27:57,039
yeah another dollar stephen king think

728
00:27:59,909 --> 00:27:58,240
stuff and i was probably shrunk because

729
00:28:01,669 --> 00:27:59,919
i was about 12. yeah i've read most of

730
00:28:03,430 --> 00:28:01,679
the stephen king's or the earlier ones

731
00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:03,440
anyway i don't know what i don't read

732
00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:04,880
them now i don't really get the time but

733
00:28:08,149 --> 00:28:06,240
um some of the earlier ones obviously

734
00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:08,159
the stand and the shining and all those

735
00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:10,559
and carrie and christine and about the

736
00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:14,080
creepy the car that kept the joke

737
00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:30,470
absolutely mad

738
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:32,000
sorry

739
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:34,720
proper creepy vest on that yeah the pet

740
00:28:43,110 --> 00:28:40,789
it's probably a little kid little evil

741
00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:43,120
dead kid children

742
00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:45,520
dead children they're the worst

743
00:28:49,590 --> 00:28:47,520
everything i'll tell you another writer

744
00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:49,600
i used to read quite a lot of in back in

745
00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:51,760
the well back in the early days was uh

746
00:28:56,630 --> 00:28:54,320
james herbert things like the fog and

747
00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:56,640
the rats and stuff like that they were

748
00:29:00,710 --> 00:28:59,440
really good yeah

749
00:29:02,389 --> 00:29:00,720
well i don't know if this is still

750
00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:02,399
around james herbert or is he did he die

751
00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:04,000
off he's probably it's probably gone now

752
00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:05,120
i should think

753
00:29:09,430 --> 00:29:06,480
well

754
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:09,440
not got a clue no because i i mean i

755
00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:11,760
think i mean we were probably getting on

756
00:29:15,269 --> 00:29:13,200
a bit when i was reading these books but

757
00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:15,279
someone says probably not around anymore

758
00:29:19,909 --> 00:29:17,919
but they were good in their day

759
00:29:21,830 --> 00:29:19,919
anyway i mean around in your areas is

760
00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:21,840
people putting their halloween stuff out

761
00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:22,880
already

762
00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:25,120
they're all they're all around here

763
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:28,480
they are across the road my parents um

764
00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:30,880
they're quite close to my mum and dad

765
00:29:34,149 --> 00:29:32,320
and

766
00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:34,159
they've got a you know the whoo the

767
00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:36,080
ghost that sort of moves and you've got

768
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:38,000
like everything they've got one of them

769
00:29:44,789 --> 00:29:41,679
they've got a grave they've got lights

770
00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:44,799
i'll have to do some pictures seriously

771
00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:45,840
um

772
00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:47,840
not tonight obviously because

773
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:49,840
and i drove past i think tuna and it was

774
00:29:54,549 --> 00:29:51,360
like

775
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:54,559
it looks really good yeah one of the

776
00:29:58,630 --> 00:29:56,720
things i've seen so far i'll tell you

777
00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:58,640
what you remember sasha where i used to

778
00:30:02,230 --> 00:30:00,720
live uh we we used to put some things

779
00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:02,240
out on the gate tell me i don't think

780
00:30:13,029 --> 00:30:04,640
anyone ever saw him because you know

781
00:30:17,029 --> 00:30:15,029
yeah i don't have to do anything to my

782
00:30:19,350 --> 00:30:17,039
house because it's like

783
00:30:23,830 --> 00:30:19,360
it already looks like halloween in here

784
00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:25,430
you know and i've got all kinds of weird

785
00:30:31,750 --> 00:30:29,440
stuff on my model on the fireplace yeah

786
00:30:34,470 --> 00:30:31,760
and the box and jars and

787
00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:34,480
curiosity things so yeah

788
00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:35,679
one thing that's gonna be different

789
00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:36,880
where we're living there we're probably

790
00:30:39,750 --> 00:30:38,159
gonna get all the kids knocking on the

791
00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:39,760
door a lot we didn't we couldn't have

792
00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:42,080
that where we were before yeah and you

793
00:30:46,030 --> 00:30:44,720
know so i should probably be throttling

794
00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:46,040
mood by next week

795
00:30:51,269 --> 00:30:49,200
[Laughter]

796
00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:51,279
now but it's all part of this thing i

797
00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:52,480
know yeah

798
00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:54,640
i'll just let you answer the door

799
00:30:57,669 --> 00:30:56,000
or we'll put them or we put all the

800
00:30:59,830 --> 00:30:57,679
lights out might not make out nobody's

801
00:31:01,909 --> 00:30:59,840
own

802
00:31:03,830 --> 00:31:01,919
i like the right little tiny baby ones

803
00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:03,840
you know they can only just start

804
00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:05,840
walking yeah

805
00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:08,320
what's going on

806
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:10,960
they're just like looking at this

807
00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:13,440
angel with sweeties

808
00:31:17,590 --> 00:31:16,320
yeah i saw a post oh i saw a post on

809
00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:17,600
twitter today and they were saying you

810
00:31:20,149 --> 00:31:19,440
know are you going to trick or treat yes

811
00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:20,159
no

812
00:31:26,470 --> 00:31:23,200
um one bright spark said oh yes i let

813
00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:26,480
them trick or treat however i'm going to

814
00:31:31,590 --> 00:31:30,399
cable tie my gates so they can't get in

815
00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:31,600
and i thought

816
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:33,360
okay how big are the gates are they

817
00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:34,480
going to break the gate so they're going

818
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:35,679
to climb over the wall i was just

819
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:37,200
thinking of all the weirdos well there's

820
00:31:41,029 --> 00:31:38,720
a chain you could always use a chain

821
00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:41,039
rather than a cable tie maybe

822
00:31:44,149 --> 00:31:42,399
and he was like

823
00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:44,159
really and then people were just jumping

824
00:31:49,269 --> 00:31:46,799
and going why you'll break the gate it

825
00:31:50,549 --> 00:31:49,279
was just from something so simple like

826
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:50,559
you know are you looking forward to

827
00:31:55,269 --> 00:31:52,880
trick you just morphed into

828
00:31:58,230 --> 00:31:55,279
weirdness but that's twitter for you it

829
00:32:00,549 --> 00:31:58,240
can be spectacularly stupid really good

830
00:32:02,070 --> 00:32:00,559
at times but also spectacularly stupid

831
00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:02,080
it's like

832
00:32:07,029 --> 00:32:03,840
why am i reading this i'm just as bad i

833
00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:07,039
didn't reply but i was i was more like

834
00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:09,120
what

835
00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:10,559
people do this

836
00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:13,120
i remember years ago when i was a kid

837
00:32:17,029 --> 00:32:15,600
halloween wasn't the same as it is now

838
00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:17,039
you know we never used to put out loads

839
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:18,880
of loads of stuff and all that maybe we

840
00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:20,240
didn't have the money i don't know but i

841
00:32:23,029 --> 00:32:21,440
don't remember

842
00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:23,039
all the outsides of the houses being

843
00:32:26,789 --> 00:32:24,960
done up as much as it is now

844
00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:26,799
you know and kids going around the doors

845
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:29,200
and things i remember just walking

846
00:32:33,269 --> 00:32:31,200
around outside with a turnip that my

847
00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:33,279
daddy followed out and put a candle

848
00:32:39,669 --> 00:32:37,430
used to do turnips

849
00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:39,679
like yeah obviously

850
00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:42,080
yeah and that was it there was no going

851
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:44,720
to anybody's house or whatever just like

852
00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:46,720
that's a new one i mean it well about

853
00:32:50,549 --> 00:32:48,960
the um the um

854
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:50,559
pumpkin and all that

855
00:32:54,830 --> 00:32:52,240
now where did that originate the pumpkin

856
00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:54,840
you got any idea

857
00:33:00,870 --> 00:32:58,159
nope i think it's just okay

858
00:33:02,230 --> 00:33:00,880
they're ripe at this time of year maybe

859
00:33:03,669 --> 00:33:02,240
i was either and that was the only

860
00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:03,679
reason they just sort of yeah because

861
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:04,880
it's not much else you can do with a

862
00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:06,480
pumpkin is there

863
00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:08,720
you know i don't know people people make

864
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:10,320
pumpkin soup and stuff but i don't know

865
00:33:13,110 --> 00:33:12,000
what else i can do with them

866
00:33:15,669 --> 00:33:13,120
um

867
00:33:18,789 --> 00:33:15,679
nice latte

868
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:18,799
pumpkin pie it's like yeah lots of

869
00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:20,480
pumpkin things

870
00:33:23,909 --> 00:33:22,640
but someone's just said

871
00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:23,919
some

872
00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:25,279
we've got a great big one that jill's

873
00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:27,360
going to hollow out and make a

874
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:28,720
you know and i'll say to you what we're

875
00:33:31,909 --> 00:33:30,240
going to do with the rest of it she said

876
00:33:34,230 --> 00:33:31,919
i know

877
00:33:40,789 --> 00:33:36,230
probably my person might get a pumpkin

878
00:33:43,909 --> 00:33:42,630
turnips i think are more scary than

879
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:43,919
pumpkin

880
00:33:48,389 --> 00:33:45,120
now come on

881
00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:48,399
how's it turning scary come on juliet

882
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:50,720
well if you look at pictures afterwards

883
00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:54,399
of a turnip and then against a pumpkin

884
00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:57,200
the turnip to me just looks more like

885
00:34:00,950 --> 00:33:58,880
savage yeah

886
00:34:09,430 --> 00:34:00,960
vegetable let's be honest here it's an

887
00:34:13,909 --> 00:34:11,909
or whatever but you can't make a swede

888
00:34:16,869 --> 00:34:13,919
or return it look happy they just look

889
00:34:18,869 --> 00:34:16,879
menacing thank you all right

890
00:34:21,349 --> 00:34:18,879
i should remember something next time i

891
00:34:22,869 --> 00:34:21,359
look at the turnip well think of that

892
00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:22,879
right listen

893
00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:24,480
witches

894
00:34:27,909 --> 00:34:26,399
where they came from you know your

895
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:27,919
traditional

896
00:34:33,430 --> 00:34:31,200
pointy hat broomstick cat

897
00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:33,440
cauldron so i'll tell you where all that

898
00:34:37,750 --> 00:34:36,000
came from yeah yeah please

899
00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:37,760
okay so

900
00:34:42,869 --> 00:34:39,599
way back when

901
00:34:44,230 --> 00:34:42,879
women used to brew all the ale and all

902
00:34:45,990 --> 00:34:44,240
the beer

903
00:34:49,349 --> 00:34:46,000
and they would use psychoactive

904
00:34:51,109 --> 00:34:49,359
ingredients like mandrake and henbane

905
00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:51,119
and

906
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:57,760
of other plants but a lot of them they

907
00:35:02,390 --> 00:35:00,560
will these have healing properties they

908
00:35:03,910 --> 00:35:02,400
don't make you bloated and fat like

909
00:35:05,589 --> 00:35:03,920
beers with hops

910
00:35:08,950 --> 00:35:05,599
and um

911
00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:08,960
there was one made out of for 10 000

912
00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:10,720
years called groot

913
00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:13,040
which is um

914
00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:15,520
like labrador marsh

915
00:35:19,829 --> 00:35:16,400
like a

916
00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:19,839
rhododendron and it's very potent all of

917
00:35:24,069 --> 00:35:22,320
these things are toxic on their own but

918
00:35:26,069 --> 00:35:24,079
when you brew them into alcohol they're

919
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:26,079
not so that's where you get all of the

920
00:35:31,349 --> 00:35:28,240
ingredients being added to a cauldron

921
00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:31,359
from because they had the big pot to

922
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:34,880
boil all of this work and match it into

923
00:35:38,790 --> 00:35:36,800
a into ale

924
00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:38,800
so because people

925
00:35:43,349 --> 00:35:40,800
couldn't read back then and so there was

926
00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:43,359
no signs outside shops with ye oldie

927
00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:45,040
beer or whatever because nobody could

928
00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:47,839
read so there were like uh visual

929
00:35:49,829 --> 00:35:49,040
signals

930
00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:49,839
so

931
00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:51,839
in the crowd if you saw

932
00:35:57,750 --> 00:35:54,560
a tall pointy hat you knew that that was

933
00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:57,760
a hawker selling beer

934
00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:58,640
now

935
00:36:02,310 --> 00:36:00,320
the room

936
00:36:04,790 --> 00:36:02,320
obviously you need the broom to sweep

937
00:36:07,990 --> 00:36:04,800
the floor but the broom was the visual

938
00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:08,000
signal that beer was being sold so they

939
00:36:13,109 --> 00:36:10,720
would hang the broom above the shop door

940
00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:13,119
so the the people in the crowd could say

941
00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:15,280
all right there's i can go get my beer

942
00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:17,359
from over there

943
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:20,880
the cat was for catching the rats etc

944
00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:22,560
that and the mice

945
00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:25,040
around the grain and everything

946
00:36:31,510 --> 00:36:29,040
so and they then were demonized because

947
00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:31,520
men came in of course and took over

948
00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:34,079
brewing to demonize the women said that

949
00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:36,400
they were poisoning people there were

950
00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:38,640
actually civil there was like a civil

951
00:36:43,349 --> 00:36:41,920
war over beer being changed from all of

952
00:36:45,829 --> 00:36:43,359
those things

953
00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:45,839
into like your standard pilsner type

954
00:36:49,990 --> 00:36:47,920
beer where you'll be using the hops

955
00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:50,000
where everybody was complaining they

956
00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:54,720
make a man bloaty and lazy and fat

957
00:37:00,550 --> 00:36:57,680
and there's no medimens and violence and

958
00:37:01,750 --> 00:37:00,560
all this so yeah it was uh everyone was

959
00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:01,760
kicking off

960
00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:03,760
but obviously at the elite are the elite

961
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:05,200
and they do whatever they want they did

962
00:37:07,349 --> 00:37:06,640
it back then and they're still doing it

963
00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:07,359
now

964
00:37:13,589 --> 00:37:10,320
so uh yeah but anyway that's where

965
00:37:15,589 --> 00:37:13,599
your pointy hat which came from and all

966
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:15,599
the bubble tile and trouble chucking

967
00:37:21,829 --> 00:37:18,160
ingredients i knew whatever blah blah

968
00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:21,839
blah but these were um ingredients of

969
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:23,440
the beer that they were brewing all

970
00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:25,200
right so they weren't all sort of old

971
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:27,680
haggy looking women then probably no

972
00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:29,280
because you know a lot of typical witch

973
00:37:32,950 --> 00:37:31,200
cookies got a lot of big nose and all

974
00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:32,960
warts and

975
00:37:36,870 --> 00:37:34,880
stuff yeah

976
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:36,880
it's my family businesses so you've got

977
00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:39,359
your old and new young working

978
00:37:43,750 --> 00:37:41,839
together you know it was a family

979
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:43,760
affair

980
00:37:50,069 --> 00:37:46,960
but yeah that's how um the brewing

981
00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:50,079
industry changed completely and the

982
00:37:54,630 --> 00:37:52,560
female brewers were

983
00:37:57,510 --> 00:37:54,640
literally painted to be

984
00:37:59,190 --> 00:37:57,520
evil witches and then were actually

985
00:38:01,109 --> 00:37:59,200
murdered

986
00:38:03,030 --> 00:38:01,119
for being witches so

987
00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:03,040
yeah that's what all that was about so

988
00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:04,720
this is that's where to say which is

989
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:06,880
brew came from no doubt is that what

990
00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:08,160
yeah

991
00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:12,710
thank you sasha i'm going to read off on

992
00:38:15,910 --> 00:38:14,400
that more if that's okay

993
00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:15,920
it's very

994
00:38:19,829 --> 00:38:18,240
so i did not know so as far as which is

995
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:19,839
so did

996
00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:21,599
as far as you know did wishes come up

997
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:24,640
with spells and things to cast on people

998
00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:26,480
and sort of turn into toads and stuff

999
00:38:28,860 --> 00:38:27,920
like that or was that just all fairy

1000
00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:28,870
tales

1001
00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:30,720
[Laughter]

1002
00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:31,680
just

1003
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:34,720
if witches could turn anyone into turks

1004
00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:37,440
the entire government might be offered

1005
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:48,470
i apologize to the uk government

1006
00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:51,349
they were just herbalists and healers

1007
00:38:55,910 --> 00:38:53,200
and you know

1008
00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:55,920
psychic intuitive whatever like so many

1009
00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:57,040
people are

1010
00:39:01,510 --> 00:38:59,119
it's nothing special is that you know a

1011
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:01,520
lot of people are very you know in tune

1012
00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:04,800
and yeah maybe not to any like major

1013
00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:06,640
degree but who are you you were going to

1014
00:39:10,069 --> 00:39:08,079
call oh i knew that was going to happen

1015
00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:10,079
oh i thought about you yesterday

1016
00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:13,200
all the people that do that they're all

1017
00:39:19,109 --> 00:39:16,560
intuitive insensitive in some way

1018
00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:19,119
anyone who's seen a ghost is psychic

1019
00:39:24,069 --> 00:39:21,839
they can see you know like it's just

1020
00:39:26,069 --> 00:39:24,079
it's quite simple

1021
00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:26,079
yeah well

1022
00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:28,400
fine i'm talking about seeing ghosts um

1023
00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:29,680
have you been on the paranormal

1024
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:34,390
no

1025
00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:47,030
since the last time i spoke to you two

1026
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:49,040
like lovely ladies i've been on a couple

1027
00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:52,000
myself i went to whis beach castle um

1028
00:39:57,510 --> 00:39:53,200
about

1029
00:39:59,430 --> 00:39:57,520
ago i guess um yeah that was quite

1030
00:40:02,230 --> 00:39:59,440
interesting um

1031
00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:02,240
there was a there was a point where

1032
00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:03,920
i was asked to go and stand by a

1033
00:40:07,829 --> 00:40:06,160
fountain which was it was i mean west

1034
00:40:10,150 --> 00:40:07,839
beach castle was not really a castle

1035
00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:10,160
it's like a house that sort of stands in

1036
00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:11,680
the middle of where a castle used to be

1037
00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:13,760
i think it's kind of what it's really

1038
00:40:18,870 --> 00:40:16,800
like so it's like a big house really um

1039
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:18,880
and it's not got like gardens

1040
00:40:22,309 --> 00:40:20,160
and there's like a fountain in the

1041
00:40:23,990 --> 00:40:22,319
gardens which is not working but anyway

1042
00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:24,000
i was told to go that was asked to go

1043
00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:25,760
and stand by the fountain and see if i

1044
00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:28,240
could come up with anything you know if

1045
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:31,040
anything sort of entered my mind

1046
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:33,280
anyway i did i sat there for about 10

1047
00:40:37,829 --> 00:40:35,280
minutes sort of thing and um

1048
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:37,839
and i had this funny feeling about monks

1049
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:40,240
and things like that coming from ahead

1050
00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:43,200
now i'm saying it now because later on

1051
00:40:47,829 --> 00:40:45,599
i i sort of i was asked what um what

1052
00:40:50,069 --> 00:40:47,839
what what i come up with but i said well

1053
00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:50,079
i had this feeling of monks and and

1054
00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:54,079
everything and vivian who was running

1055
00:40:58,230 --> 00:40:56,000
the thing so that's interesting well

1056
00:40:59,670 --> 00:40:58,240
later on in the night or the evening

1057
00:41:01,750 --> 00:40:59,680
where it was the night actually early

1058
00:41:03,829 --> 00:41:01,760
hours in the morning um

1059
00:41:05,910 --> 00:41:03,839
the creator or the person that was

1060
00:41:08,390 --> 00:41:05,920
taking us around the house and uh doing

1061
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:08,400
the sort of um paranormal investigations

1062
00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:10,000
everything he started talking about

1063
00:41:13,589 --> 00:41:11,920
monks that used to be on the on the

1064
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:13,599
grounds yeah so

1065
00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:16,560
i'd obviously picked up on something and

1066
00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:18,560
you know i i mean i don't class myself

1067
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:21,040
as being psychic whatsoever but

1068
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:23,280
vivian who was doing the thing she she

1069
00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:25,200
told me i was a little bit you know and

1070
00:41:29,589 --> 00:41:27,200
i said well i don't really she said if

1071
00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:29,599
you open your mind up and she says most

1072
00:41:33,190 --> 00:41:31,440
people can do it if they put their mind

1073
00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:33,200
to it you know

1074
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:35,040
but that kind of shocked me a little bit

1075
00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:36,560
the the the fact that i was coming up

1076
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:37,920
with these things and there there were

1077
00:41:41,190 --> 00:41:40,000
actually monks on the land around that

1078
00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:41,200
area so

1079
00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:47,910
and what i did last a couple weeks ago

1080
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:50,240
was when we had a really stormy night uh

1081
00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:51,599
we went to haste

1082
00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:53,040
yeah hastings

1083
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:55,760
and it was the crime museum we went to

1084
00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:58,240
and it was a really dead night i mean we

1085
00:42:02,390 --> 00:42:00,880
left by 10 o'clock um

1086
00:42:04,150 --> 00:42:02,400
it was only because

1087
00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:04,160
it was right next door to a club and it

1088
00:42:08,630 --> 00:42:06,800
was boom boom boom boom boom

1089
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:08,640
and it was terrible you know

1090
00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:09,599
um

1091
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:11,920
and i could get no atmosphere at all

1092
00:42:15,670 --> 00:42:13,520
there you know it i was just really

1093
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:15,680
disappointed but it's quite an expensive

1094
00:42:18,550 --> 00:42:17,200
evening that was

1095
00:42:20,309 --> 00:42:18,560
you could you could have saved yourself

1096
00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:20,319
money and just asked malcolm was it any

1097
00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:22,319
good well yeah malcolm's not there yes

1098
00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:23,839
right that's true i mean no the actual

1099
00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:26,560
venue itself was interesting you know

1100
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:28,160
they had all sort of

1101
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:28,960
um

1102
00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:31,680
murderers weapons and the acid

1103
00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:33,520
bath murders and things like that the

1104
00:42:37,829 --> 00:42:35,680
acid bath there and ah now whether it

1105
00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:37,839
was the actual acid bath or it could be

1106
00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:39,760
it could have been any bar but

1107
00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:41,520
they said it was yesterday

1108
00:42:45,589 --> 00:42:43,680
uh murders were carried out in it

1109
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:45,599
but um there was a few other things in

1110
00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:47,520
there which it was an interesting venue

1111
00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:49,839
and apparently it was old um

1112
00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:51,599
they were like caves and there's like

1113
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:53,599
the i think smugglers used to hide all

1114
00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:56,000
their their their wares in them

1115
00:43:00,150 --> 00:42:58,560
um they started on tasting seafront type

1116
00:43:02,309 --> 00:43:00,160
of thing before all the shops and things

1117
00:43:04,069 --> 00:43:02,319
were there obviously you know

1118
00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:04,079
but um yeah it's an interesting place to

1119
00:43:07,829 --> 00:43:06,000
go so it was an interesting place to see

1120
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:07,839
it was just a it was an expensive

1121
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:09,839
evening and really got nothing out of it

1122
00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:11,200
you know we didn't even get anything to

1123
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:16,069
because we were rushing to get there in

1124
00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:17,520
the bad weather we didn't stop to get

1125
00:43:20,309 --> 00:43:18,800
anything and we couldn't get anything

1126
00:43:22,150 --> 00:43:20,319
when we came out so that was the end of

1127
00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:22,160
that

1128
00:43:27,349 --> 00:43:24,400
i've got two bizarre ones obviously you

1129
00:43:29,589 --> 00:43:27,359
know i've got a dog luna a labrador

1130
00:43:31,589 --> 00:43:29,599
um so nights are getting darker

1131
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:31,599
obviously and

1132
00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:34,720
i do walk at a crematorium carlton

1133
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:36,400
cremator room

1134
00:43:40,870 --> 00:43:38,560
and i've had some weird pictures as the

1135
00:43:43,349 --> 00:43:40,880
years have progressed there anyway

1136
00:43:46,349 --> 00:43:43,359
and i thought nice evening it's not

1137
00:43:50,069 --> 00:43:46,359
raining for a change i'll walk there was

1138
00:43:51,829 --> 00:43:50,079
absolutely nobody there was me that was

1139
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:51,839
hurt that was it

1140
00:43:55,589 --> 00:43:53,440
you know when you and it's quite open

1141
00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:55,599
apart from the sort of the actual crime

1142
00:43:58,950 --> 00:43:56,720
in the middle

1143
00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:58,960
and i was sort of i must admit that was

1144
00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:00,480
i was going back to the car because

1145
00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:02,560
there was a story behind it where a taxi

1146
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:04,720
driver dropped off this woman and then

1147
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:07,280
she disappeared and then there was this

1148
00:44:09,990 --> 00:44:09,040
goblin type thing that appeared in front

1149
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:10,000
of the cab

1150
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:11,440
and i'm sort of walking back to the car

1151
00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:12,720
and i'm like

1152
00:44:16,069 --> 00:44:14,640
i'm just going to turn around i'm just

1153
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:16,079
going to turn around there's nothing

1154
00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:16,880
there

1155
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:18,400
but it's going back to

1156
00:44:22,230 --> 00:44:19,920
is it in my head

1157
00:44:23,829 --> 00:44:22,240
because i know the history of it and

1158
00:44:25,990 --> 00:44:23,839
that that was particularly sort of got

1159
00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:26,000
in the car and it was like i'm good i'm

1160
00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:26,880
good

1161
00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:28,960
but i put all the lights on it was just

1162
00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:32,000
like juliet there's nothing there but it

1163
00:44:37,349 --> 00:44:34,079
was still quite peculiar because i knew

1164
00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:37,359
it was just me i know the soul was there

1165
00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:40,079
so if i hadn't seen anything

1166
00:44:45,910 --> 00:44:43,760
yeah you know luna can't speak anymore

1167
00:44:48,630 --> 00:44:45,920
on the flip side

1168
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:48,640
my mum loves doing the family history

1169
00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:50,880
and she's written um she's got like

1170
00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:52,240
little books she wants to do and she's

1171
00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:53,920
written the first one about the leroy

1172
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:55,119
family

1173
00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:57,440
so i was tasked with trying to publish

1174
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:59,359
and so on and so forth anyways of course

1175
00:45:02,550 --> 00:45:00,800
i'm reading through it

1176
00:45:04,630 --> 00:45:02,560
and i came across something rather

1177
00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:04,640
fantastic so yes if you've heard of this

1178
00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:05,520
or no

1179
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:08,000
the silk stocking murders at elk clean

1180
00:45:12,870 --> 00:45:10,480
yorkshire

1181
00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:12,880
hmm yeah ugly

1182
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:14,240
vaguely

1183
00:45:20,069 --> 00:45:16,720
turns out it's one of my relatives

1184
00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:21,510
and i was like

1185
00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:23,119
hold on a minute so i sort of went back

1186
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:25,680
again mary leroy

1187
00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:28,800
and it was just like and i was like no

1188
00:45:33,589 --> 00:45:31,440
no way you know she was strangled the

1189
00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:33,599
woman not the murderer

1190
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:36,400
yeah she was murdered but it was like oh

1191
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:37,920
well that's what you meant you were you

1192
00:45:41,109 --> 00:45:40,400
were really related to the um murderer

1193
00:45:42,790 --> 00:45:41,119
yeah

1194
00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:42,800
yes

1195
00:45:47,430 --> 00:45:45,040
the levites are part of the family tree

1196
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:47,440
so chasing back then

1197
00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:49,359
i i don't understand family trees

1198
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:51,040
because my mum better rush it than i am

1199
00:45:54,630 --> 00:45:52,960
but she was like oh yes this is one of

1200
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:54,640
our relatives i was like

1201
00:46:00,390 --> 00:45:56,720
oh hold on a minute and she said

1202
00:46:01,829 --> 00:46:00,400
mary lou void was 1929 and basically she

1203
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:01,839
was strangled with the stocking and a

1204
00:46:06,470 --> 00:46:03,920
vacant plot to bland in ilkling west

1205
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:06,480
yorkshire it was like oh

1206
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:07,920
so when i read the chapter she's written

1207
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:11,040
about it it was like oh my goodness and

1208
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:12,720
there's a lot more that she didn't fit

1209
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:14,880
in that was kind of super close to the

1210
00:46:19,109 --> 00:46:17,200
sort of backstory but it was like

1211
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:19,119
oh my goodness but there was other bits

1212
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:20,880
she sort of threw and i was like is

1213
00:46:28,069 --> 00:46:25,829
okay but it was like

1214
00:46:29,589 --> 00:46:28,079
wow i need to write about this for the

1215
00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:29,599
haunted magazine to be honest because i

1216
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:31,680
thought that's fantastic because usually

1217
00:46:35,589 --> 00:46:33,760
i just write about lancashire but i

1218
00:46:37,910 --> 00:46:35,599
thought i can sort of stare slightly

1219
00:46:39,829 --> 00:46:37,920
into yorkshire now

1220
00:46:42,069 --> 00:46:39,839
ish yeah i mean that would happen it

1221
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:42,079
says a bit about was she targeted or was

1222
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:47,190
[Applause]

1223
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:49,920
because we've got access to more than

1224
00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:55,910
so reid and anna must admit i went away

1225
00:46:58,630 --> 00:46:57,440
and i did an awful lot of reading about

1226
00:47:01,270 --> 00:46:58,640
it as well

1227
00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:01,280
she was a bit

1228
00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:02,640
slightly

1229
00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:03,920
and this was one of the really old

1230
00:47:06,710 --> 00:47:05,520
relatives that we met when my mom was

1231
00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:06,720
sort of doing more of the tree and i

1232
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:08,720
said i said what do you mean slightly

1233
00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:10,480
and she went you know

1234
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:12,720
flying

1235
00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:17,670
which you could interpret into anything

1236
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:18,960
it was just

1237
00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:20,000
very

1238
00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:21,680
bizarre because i thought did she know

1239
00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:27,109
was it just a random

1240
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:29,520
man again i don't think it was a woman

1241
00:47:32,549 --> 00:47:30,720
it's one of those sort of return you

1242
00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:32,559
know like who's jack the ripper

1243
00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:33,839
yeah

1244
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:35,040
i don't think they're ever going to find

1245
00:47:38,710 --> 00:47:37,040
out i mean it was really interesting

1246
00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:38,720
sort of going oh wow we've got a

1247
00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:40,480
murderer in the family that sounds awful

1248
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:42,240
doesn't it it's almost as good as that

1249
00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:43,440
hello

1250
00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:45,839
i see dead people

1251
00:47:49,510 --> 00:47:47,520
oh i see this

1252
00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:49,520
to me i'm like

1253
00:47:53,990 --> 00:47:51,119
okay

1254
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:54,000
nothing shocks me

1255
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:55,680
i mean probably if you went back into

1256
00:47:58,950 --> 00:47:57,359
most people's

1257
00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:58,960
family trees you probably find there's

1258
00:48:03,510 --> 00:48:01,119
some sort of strange deaths or murders

1259
00:48:05,109 --> 00:48:03,520
within it i would think somewhere

1260
00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:05,119
i didn't expect that one because i

1261
00:48:08,309 --> 00:48:06,640
haven't heard about that before i've

1262
00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:08,319
heard of the silk stocking murderer the

1263
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:09,920
murder yeah

1264
00:48:14,710 --> 00:48:12,319
it's the same one

1265
00:48:17,349 --> 00:48:14,720
i didn't attach anything to it until i

1266
00:48:18,829 --> 00:48:17,359
mum sort of said oh yeah you know this

1267
00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:18,839
is what i was like

1268
00:48:23,990 --> 00:48:22,240
oh oh gosh yes you know you know if you

1269
00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:24,000
sort of televised this and nobody

1270
00:48:28,630 --> 00:48:26,160
believed you it was like

1271
00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:28,640
oh my goodness oh yes yes

1272
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:30,480
we were very peculiar back in the day i

1273
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:34,000
was like oh you got a tardis now

1274
00:48:37,030 --> 00:48:35,280
it was

1275
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:37,040
it's like you saved you sort of dig back

1276
00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:38,640
a bit

1277
00:48:41,829 --> 00:48:40,480
it's it's just fascinating because i

1278
00:48:44,309 --> 00:48:41,839
thought i want to know more so i'm going

1279
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:44,319
to probably do that when i can't go out

1280
00:48:48,309 --> 00:48:46,800
filming things and writing them i

1281
00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:48,319
thought yeah it's something i do want to

1282
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:49,280
sort of

1283
00:48:53,829 --> 00:48:52,319
pick up on do it it's interesting

1284
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:53,839
yeah well it's coming to that time of

1285
00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:55,359
year now we can all stand and do a bit

1286
00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:57,599
more reading than that can't we try try

1287
00:49:01,190 --> 00:48:59,680
and steal facebook

1288
00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:01,200
but

1289
00:49:04,150 --> 00:49:02,640
know i've got a few books i want to try

1290
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:04,160
and catch up well actually one of the

1291
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:06,079
ones i've got on my list to read is the

1292
00:49:10,549 --> 00:49:08,160
paranormal case polls of with malcolm

1293
00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:10,559
robinson's book volume three that's one

1294
00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:11,760
of the ones i've got to try and catch up

1295
00:49:17,750 --> 00:49:14,160
with because i'm actually in that one

1296
00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:17,760
as well um there was a story i've told

1297
00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:20,160
you on this um on the show a couple of

1298
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:22,240
times where malcolm and i were at the

1299
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:24,800
nottingham halls of justice

1300
00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:26,480
and i'd actually told you this one

1301
00:49:29,829 --> 00:49:28,160
session i don't know if you've heard it

1302
00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:29,839
but malcolm and i were walking up the

1303
00:49:34,549 --> 00:49:32,800
steps then they're stone steps from the

1304
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:34,559
cells down below

1305
00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:36,960
and we were sort of right close together

1306
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:39,200
coming up these cold steps in the dark

1307
00:49:43,589 --> 00:49:41,520
and also there was a sharp crack behind

1308
00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:43,599
the soccer whipcrack you know and we

1309
00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:45,760
both stopped we thought what was that

1310
00:49:50,309 --> 00:49:48,480
and there was nobody behind us you know

1311
00:49:52,870 --> 00:49:50,319
and um

1312
00:49:54,790 --> 00:49:52,880
anyway i think now i'd have either a

1313
00:49:57,109 --> 00:49:54,800
camera or a lot of camera torch or

1314
00:49:59,430 --> 00:49:57,119
something and he went down the steps and

1315
00:50:01,349 --> 00:49:59,440
he found a stone on the step and it was

1316
00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:01,359
he picked it up and it was warm

1317
00:50:05,430 --> 00:50:03,280
now i don't know if it was that that

1318
00:50:08,150 --> 00:50:05,440
made the noise so all we know is there

1319
00:50:08,950 --> 00:50:08,160
was a lot of sharp crack noise behind us

1320
00:50:10,630 --> 00:50:08,960
um

1321
00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:10,640
and malcolm's written it in the book as

1322
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:12,960
like the airport for the north the uh

1323
00:50:16,549 --> 00:50:14,400
nottingham

1324
00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:16,559
um the halls of justice support he's put

1325
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:18,960
it down as it's on page 96

1326
00:50:22,069 --> 00:50:21,280
um probably about three pages of it i

1327
00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:22,079
think

1328
00:50:24,309 --> 00:50:22,960
um

1329
00:50:25,829 --> 00:50:24,319
yeah so that was quite an interesting

1330
00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:25,839
event i don't know if you you've ever

1331
00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:30,160
experienced supports anyone uh sasha or

1332
00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:32,400
actually yes i have

1333
00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:36,079
um i lived in the house in the early 90s

1334
00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:38,880
and um oh god all kinds of weird stuff

1335
00:50:44,950 --> 00:50:43,040
was happening um but one day i

1336
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:44,960
was talking to my friend she was around

1337
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:45,760
and

1338
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:48,559
was gonna give us some like uh

1339
00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:50,880
diuretic tablets that i had because she

1340
00:50:54,069 --> 00:50:52,000
was something

1341
00:50:57,670 --> 00:50:54,079
whatever anyway these tablets were

1342
00:51:00,470 --> 00:50:57,680
absolutely striking blue

1343
00:51:02,230 --> 00:51:00,480
and i kept all medications and tablets

1344
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:02,240
in an ice cream tub

1345
00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:04,720
in a cupboard in the cellar which was

1346
00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:07,200
actually our kitchen and bathroom

1347
00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:09,520
and so i went into that we went

1348
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:12,400
downstairs we went and i got the tub i

1349
00:51:16,549 --> 00:51:14,160
brought it out and i put it down on the

1350
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:16,559
work top by the bathroom door

1351
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:18,480
and i took everything out

1352
00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:19,760
put it on the side there was nothing

1353
00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:20,640
there

1354
00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:22,960
and she was looking in another cupboard

1355
00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:24,720
i said i'll have a look in the bathroom

1356
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:26,319
i went into the bathroom which was right

1357
00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:27,359
next to

1358
00:51:30,390 --> 00:51:29,200
he was like you know in the cellar like

1359
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:30,400
the kitchen

1360
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:32,880
and i looked through like my makeup bags

1361
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:34,480
and another bag of whatever yeah and i

1362
00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:35,599
came out

1363
00:51:41,030 --> 00:51:39,280
i've seen the ice cream tub and they

1364
00:51:42,309 --> 00:51:41,040
were in the tub

1365
00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:42,319
facing up

1366
00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:44,800
bright blue like you could not have

1367
00:51:49,589 --> 00:51:47,280
missed them there's just no way

1368
00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:49,599
i said ally they're there

1369
00:51:52,549 --> 00:51:51,280
and she was like oh just as we're

1370
00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:52,559
talking about yeah because i've been

1371
00:51:55,750 --> 00:51:53,920
talking about all the activities that

1372
00:51:57,750 --> 00:51:55,760
have been going on

1373
00:51:59,190 --> 00:51:57,760
so yeah that um there was nothing in

1374
00:52:01,109 --> 00:51:59,200
that tub and then when i came out of

1375
00:52:02,870 --> 00:52:01,119
that bathroom there they were i don't

1376
00:52:05,349 --> 00:52:02,880
care if people believe me or not that

1377
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:05,359
house was mental you're talking about

1378
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:08,240
noises that you were behind here i heard

1379
00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:11,200
that in mid-air in my face and there was

1380
00:52:16,829 --> 00:52:12,640
nothing there

1381
00:52:19,510 --> 00:52:16,839
i've heard a loud clap and also like a

1382
00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:19,520
thousand um glasses have all been

1383
00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:21,680
smashed at the same time it happened

1384
00:52:24,950 --> 00:52:23,359
right in my face as i was walking down

1385
00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:24,960
the ceiling steps

1386
00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:27,200
like it literally made me flinch my head

1387
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:28,960
back because it was just right in my

1388
00:52:32,790 --> 00:52:30,480
face

1389
00:52:34,470 --> 00:52:32,800
that place was absolutely run said yeah

1390
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:34,480
i mean that cracked what we heard it was

1391
00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:36,000
right it was right just well i suppose

1392
00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:37,200
it was probably about

1393
00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:39,359
maybe six feet away from us and the

1394
00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:41,520
stone and the interesting thing was

1395
00:52:45,670 --> 00:52:43,440
these stone these stone steps are really

1396
00:52:47,670 --> 00:52:45,680
cold you know but this stone when

1397
00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:47,680
malcolm picked up it was warm

1398
00:52:51,670 --> 00:52:49,760
you know as if it was um

1399
00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:51,680
it's like a smooth stone you know which

1400
00:52:54,710 --> 00:52:52,480
was

1401
00:52:56,950 --> 00:52:54,720
and the only thing i could say is that

1402
00:52:58,710 --> 00:52:56,960
if somebody had thrown that stone

1403
00:53:00,069 --> 00:52:58,720
normally if you throw a stone on the

1404
00:53:02,309 --> 00:53:00,079
stone steps you'd hear it bouncing

1405
00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:02,319
wouldn't you you know this was just like

1406
00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:04,160
a one crack and that was it there was no

1407
00:53:07,430 --> 00:53:06,400
bouncing noises or anything like that

1408
00:53:09,829 --> 00:53:07,440
so

1409
00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:09,839
i can only i don't know if it was that

1410
00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:12,160
stone but i could only assume it was

1411
00:53:15,349 --> 00:53:13,760
because of it being a different

1412
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:15,359
temperature to what the stones to you

1413
00:53:19,270 --> 00:53:17,760
know to the states were so you know that

1414
00:53:21,030 --> 00:53:19,280
was kind of an interesting thing anyway

1415
00:53:23,589 --> 00:53:21,040
malcolm's got a little display on his

1416
00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:23,599
home i think now

1417
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:25,440
i remembered another time

1418
00:53:29,270 --> 00:53:26,880
in prague

1419
00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:30,870
and there was about

1420
00:53:33,430 --> 00:53:32,400
seven of us

1421
00:53:35,750 --> 00:53:33,440
and

1422
00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:35,760
i was we were all hung over but i was

1423
00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:37,599
absolutely immortal they all said they

1424
00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:39,599
were going shopping

1425
00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:40,960
when they were gonna come back i was

1426
00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:43,440
like right sounds so i was asleep on the

1427
00:53:45,270 --> 00:53:44,400
bed

1428
00:53:47,670 --> 00:53:45,280
and

1429
00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:47,680
i heard somebody come in

1430
00:53:51,910 --> 00:53:49,760
and somebody knocked on my head like

1431
00:53:54,150 --> 00:53:51,920
with knuckles tap tap tap

1432
00:53:55,910 --> 00:53:54,160
i just kind of like smiled and left and

1433
00:53:56,710 --> 00:53:55,920
waved my hand you know like to say get

1434
00:53:59,349 --> 00:53:56,720
off

1435
00:54:02,069 --> 00:53:59,359
and went back to sleep and i woke up and

1436
00:54:05,109 --> 00:54:02,079
the room was filled with cigarette smoke

1437
00:54:06,549 --> 00:54:05,119
and uh and it felt like there should be

1438
00:54:07,349 --> 00:54:06,559
people that you know what i mean it was

1439
00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:07,359
like

1440
00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:08,559
everybody so

1441
00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:10,000
i thought oh they must have been in and

1442
00:54:13,910 --> 00:54:11,920
gone back out again because i just won't

1443
00:54:15,270 --> 00:54:13,920
wake up or whatever so i went in the

1444
00:54:16,309 --> 00:54:15,280
kitchen

1445
00:54:17,270 --> 00:54:16,319
looked

1446
00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:17,280
in the

1447
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:20,880
didn't come back i was like what the

1448
00:54:25,589 --> 00:54:24,400
hell so got a bath took my watch off i

1449
00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:25,599
got out of the bath went to get me

1450
00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:27,119
watching what she'd gone

1451
00:54:31,030 --> 00:54:29,280
i didn't see it for days

1452
00:54:33,670 --> 00:54:31,040
and then it appeared in the middle of

1453
00:54:35,589 --> 00:54:33,680
the floor in the kitchen doorway someone

1454
00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:35,599
else's wallet vanished and that appeared

1455
00:54:40,870 --> 00:54:37,440
in the middle of the floor in the living

1456
00:54:43,349 --> 00:54:40,880
room so that wasn't but it's absolutely

1457
00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:43,359
if you want to paranormal activity go to

1458
00:54:49,430 --> 00:54:46,960
prague go just go

1459
00:54:51,270 --> 00:54:49,440
it's nuts yeah why would that be this

1460
00:54:52,789 --> 00:54:51,280
session you've got any ideas there's so

1461
00:54:54,549 --> 00:54:52,799
much death you used to throw people off

1462
00:54:57,430 --> 00:54:54,559
the bridge all the time there's like

1463
00:54:58,789 --> 00:54:57,440
this old castle it's a proper old you

1464
00:55:01,910 --> 00:54:58,799
know like everything there the

1465
00:55:04,309 --> 00:55:01,920
architecture it's totally ancient

1466
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:04,319
and uh that prince charles bridge or

1467
00:55:08,470 --> 00:55:07,040
king child bridge whatever it is um

1468
00:55:11,190 --> 00:55:08,480
this like

1469
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:11,200
freezes depictions on the walls of what

1470
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:12,480
they used to do and they just used to

1471
00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:15,839
throw people off it so when i was on the

1472
00:55:19,190 --> 00:55:17,520
um the bridge and i was trying to take

1473
00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:19,200
photographs my camera just kept jamming

1474
00:55:22,470 --> 00:55:20,880
it wouldn't work when we got off the

1475
00:55:25,589 --> 00:55:22,480
bridge it would work

1476
00:55:27,750 --> 00:55:25,599
i tried to take a photograph from

1477
00:55:30,309 --> 00:55:27,760
this mud looking glass building at the

1478
00:55:32,309 --> 00:55:30,319
end at one end of the bridge

1479
00:55:34,950 --> 00:55:32,319
and um and then

1480
00:55:37,829 --> 00:55:34,960
he just jammed he wouldn't go back in it

1481
00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:37,839
absolutely not my camera it was insane

1482
00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:40,480
um yeah if you want paranormal activity

1483
00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:42,000
prague

1484
00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:42,880
just go

1485
00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:47,280
get a room anywhere everywhere is so old

1486
00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:49,440
you know there's so much history there

1487
00:55:53,030 --> 00:55:50,960
and

1488
00:55:55,109 --> 00:55:53,040
yeah well if there's anyone in prague

1489
00:55:57,750 --> 00:55:55,119
actually listening to this please get in

1490
00:55:59,670 --> 00:55:57,760
touch and tell me if any stories

1491
00:56:01,109 --> 00:55:59,680
you know such a beautiful place as well

1492
00:56:02,069 --> 00:56:01,119
yeah i'd love to go to some of these

1493
00:56:04,630 --> 00:56:02,079
places it's been like sort of

1494
00:56:07,829 --> 00:56:04,640
transylvania isn't it it's um that type

1495
00:56:09,670 --> 00:56:07,839
of is there a type of place

1496
00:56:11,990 --> 00:56:09,680
yeah because it's like a proper old

1497
00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:12,000
castle with turrets all over and

1498
00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:12,880
all

1499
00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:15,599
like pointy and everything it's just so

1500
00:56:19,589 --> 00:56:18,240
it's beautiful it's just amazing yeah i

1501
00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:19,599
mean they look really spooky but they

1502
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:21,760
look fantastic as well those old castles

1503
00:56:27,109 --> 00:56:23,040
yeah

1504
00:56:28,150 --> 00:56:27,119
there's a lot of you know pockets

1505
00:56:30,309 --> 00:56:28,160
thieves

1506
00:56:32,549 --> 00:56:30,319
people um

1507
00:56:35,190 --> 00:56:32,559
you know there's always like

1508
00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:35,200
sexy time stuff going on

1509
00:56:39,829 --> 00:56:38,160
and a big drink culture on the night

1510
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:39,839
hmm what's up

1511
00:56:45,030 --> 00:56:41,760
that's around in most places isn't it

1512
00:56:47,349 --> 00:56:45,040
yeah he's full-on he's full-on so

1513
00:56:51,750 --> 00:56:49,670
you know i mean some areas that you just

1514
00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:51,760
you won't go to but um

1515
00:56:55,829 --> 00:56:54,000
mostly there's some lovely like bars and

1516
00:56:57,349 --> 00:56:55,839
things that you can find but as you walk

1517
00:56:59,349 --> 00:56:57,359
in between places you're going to get

1518
00:57:01,190 --> 00:56:59,359
people trying to drag you into the bars

1519
00:57:03,670 --> 00:57:01,200
every single bar's got somebody outside

1520
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:03,680
trying to get you in it so it's a bit

1521
00:57:07,510 --> 00:57:05,520
a bit mad like that but yeah it's gonna

1522
00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:07,520
be a beautiful place i wonder if they do

1523
00:57:10,829 --> 00:57:09,599
ghost tours like they do mostly

1524
00:57:13,589 --> 00:57:10,839
london and

1525
00:57:15,270 --> 00:57:13,599
whatever other will do yeah

1526
00:57:17,190 --> 00:57:15,280
definitely i mean it's like you say if

1527
00:57:18,789 --> 00:57:17,200
it's got a lot of activity like that

1528
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:18,799
they must have some fantastic tools i

1529
00:57:20,780 --> 00:57:20,400
would have thought

1530
00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:20,790
yeah

1531
00:57:23,829 --> 00:57:22,160
[Music]

1532
00:57:27,109 --> 00:57:23,839
you know i don't know if

1533
00:57:28,950 --> 00:57:27,119
i didn't look at the time we it was just

1534
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:28,960
me and a couple of friends

1535
00:57:33,430 --> 00:57:31,920
and some of their work mates

1536
00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:33,440
so i didn't even know the other people

1537
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:40,549
yeah sure he's gone quiet are you still

1538
00:57:44,950 --> 00:57:42,240
there juliet

1539
00:57:46,309 --> 00:57:44,960
i was thinking

1540
00:57:48,390 --> 00:57:46,319
yeah hello amazing i thought you were

1541
00:57:50,309 --> 00:57:48,400
called all for that

1542
00:57:53,030 --> 00:57:50,319
no no i was just thinking about

1543
00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:53,040
something uh because obviously you get

1544
00:57:57,910 --> 00:57:55,680
the closer we get to halloween the more

1545
00:58:00,230 --> 00:57:57,920
we're going to get things on telly

1546
00:58:02,549 --> 00:58:00,240
about ghosts or

1547
00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:02,559
you know whatever's going on but i was

1548
00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:05,040
thinking about like local folklore

1549
00:58:09,109 --> 00:58:06,480
there's certain things that they always

1550
00:58:11,589 --> 00:58:09,119
sort of seem to bring out like uh pendle

1551
00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:11,599
witches as an example

1552
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:13,200
and it's the same thing it's like the

1553
00:58:16,549 --> 00:58:15,119
same story i remember years ago sort of

1554
00:58:17,990 --> 00:58:16,559
seeing an article in the newspaper and

1555
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:18,000
they said oh we found a house that it

1556
00:58:20,710 --> 00:58:18,960
wasn't

1557
00:58:22,150 --> 00:58:20,720
you know somebody a friend of mine

1558
00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:22,160
actually lives up near pendle and he

1559
00:58:25,990 --> 00:58:24,640
went it's not a witch's house but again

1560
00:58:27,589 --> 00:58:26,000
it's sort of going back to what sasha

1561
00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:27,599
was saying

1562
00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:28,720
the there's

1563
00:58:33,190 --> 00:58:30,640
things that are perpetuated through

1564
00:58:34,549 --> 00:58:33,200
television and through the written word

1565
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:34,559
you've proved it tonight going oh

1566
00:58:38,789 --> 00:58:36,400
witches hats

1567
00:58:40,549 --> 00:58:38,799
sometimes we believe the stereotype it's

1568
00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:40,559
like everybody has heard of the panel

1569
00:58:44,710 --> 00:58:42,480
witches however there's a different one

1570
00:58:47,109 --> 00:58:44,720
somebody called meg shelton

1571
00:58:47,910 --> 00:58:47,119
and at this point you think who who's

1572
00:58:50,950 --> 00:58:47,920
that

1573
00:58:54,230 --> 00:58:50,960
easy to google uh basically

1574
00:58:55,750 --> 00:58:54,240
a filed hag this is how she's written up

1575
00:58:57,829 --> 00:58:55,760
accused of witchcraft but the

1576
00:58:59,829 --> 00:58:57,839
interesting thing is when they buried

1577
00:59:02,549 --> 00:58:59,839
her she's at a place called wood

1578
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:02,559
plumpton cute little village

1579
00:59:07,510 --> 00:59:04,720
and there's a boulder

1580
00:59:09,190 --> 00:59:07,520
massive boulder onto somebody getting

1581
00:59:10,150 --> 00:59:09,200
out of the grave is it

1582
00:59:11,990 --> 00:59:10,160
yeah

1583
00:59:13,589 --> 00:59:12,000
i actually visited when the weather was

1584
00:59:17,510 --> 00:59:13,599
nice over summer

1585
00:59:19,030 --> 00:59:17,520
i did a little youtube video and

1586
00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:19,040
my sense of direction in a car is

1587
00:59:22,870 --> 00:59:20,880
spectacularly bad at the best but i

1588
00:59:25,030 --> 00:59:22,880
managed to actually get some pumps and

1589
00:59:26,870 --> 00:59:25,040
what a lovely little church

1590
00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:26,880
but it was like when you sort of read

1591
00:59:30,549 --> 00:59:28,720
the backstory to it it was like you know

1592
00:59:32,309 --> 00:59:30,559
she was found dead in the cottage

1593
00:59:34,950 --> 00:59:32,319
crushed between a wall and a large

1594
00:59:37,670 --> 00:59:34,960
barrel and talks about her using magic

1595
00:59:39,670 --> 00:59:37,680
to make crops fail turn milk sour and

1596
00:59:41,910 --> 00:59:39,680
cause illness and cattle

1597
00:59:43,349 --> 00:59:41,920
but she's buried face down and a great

1598
00:59:45,510 --> 00:59:43,359
look

1599
00:59:47,829 --> 00:59:45,520
and it's so interesting and i

1600
00:59:50,230 --> 00:59:47,839
must admit

1601
00:59:52,390 --> 00:59:50,240
you're supposed to allegedly

1602
00:59:53,990 --> 00:59:52,400
walk around three times anti-clockwise

1603
00:59:56,230 --> 00:59:54,000
and then spit on my grave

1604
00:59:57,510 --> 00:59:56,240
you know i did and then you make a wish

1605
00:59:58,309 --> 00:59:57,520
and if she likes you she'll grant you

1606
01:00:00,630 --> 00:59:58,319
wish

1607
01:00:03,510 --> 01:00:00,640
happened

1608
01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:03,520
i actually said can i win the lottery

1609
01:00:08,309 --> 01:00:05,760
quid oh

1610
01:00:10,309 --> 01:00:08,319
no i'm on 30 cruising i thought

1611
01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:10,319
that's either fate or it's absolute

1612
01:00:14,309 --> 01:00:12,880
piffle but it was such a nice i thought

1613
01:00:17,510 --> 01:00:14,319
you were gonna send a million mile went

1614
01:00:19,109 --> 01:00:17,520
in for a minute oh obviously

1615
01:00:21,190 --> 01:00:19,119
no i don't know what to do with that

1616
01:00:22,630 --> 01:00:21,200
much he'd be like help

1617
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:22,640
but it was nice to actually see a

1618
01:00:25,829 --> 01:00:23,760
different

1619
01:00:28,710 --> 01:00:25,839
sort of folk blog because it's not as

1620
01:00:30,549 --> 01:00:28,720
well known as the pendle which is

1621
01:00:32,069 --> 01:00:30,559
it's like when you start talking about

1622
01:00:33,990 --> 01:00:32,079
jack the ripper

1623
01:00:35,829 --> 01:00:34,000
and oh it's like oh no it kind of worms

1624
01:00:37,349 --> 01:00:35,839
that one and it's like it was a man it

1625
01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:37,359
was a woman it was this it was that it

1626
01:00:43,430 --> 01:00:39,040
was royalties

1627
01:00:46,630 --> 01:00:45,109
no i thought most witches were burned at

1628
01:00:48,069 --> 01:00:46,640
the stake weren't they

1629
01:00:51,349 --> 01:00:48,079
and actually

1630
01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:51,359
not that many were actually burned alive

1631
01:00:55,270 --> 01:00:53,440
most were corrupted on the stake and

1632
01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:55,280
then they were burned

1633
01:00:59,510 --> 01:00:57,280
but uh yeah

1634
01:01:00,870 --> 01:00:59,520
you i'm mostly drowning

1635
01:01:03,030 --> 01:01:00,880
yeah i know you used to do

1636
01:01:04,870 --> 01:01:03,040
a ducky stool yeah like if you survived

1637
01:01:06,230 --> 01:01:04,880
you you were a witch which was a bit

1638
01:01:08,549 --> 01:01:06,240
crazy

1639
01:01:09,829 --> 01:01:08,559
and she floated you yeah you're kind of

1640
01:01:11,510 --> 01:01:09,839
damned either

1641
01:01:13,750 --> 01:01:11,520
and the thing is about all of the witch

1642
01:01:15,589 --> 01:01:13,760
towers as well as the as the women they

1643
01:01:17,190 --> 01:01:15,599
actually paid for their own torture they

1644
01:01:19,349 --> 01:01:17,200
paid for the upkeep of the people that

1645
01:01:20,630 --> 01:01:19,359
were torturing them including their food

1646
01:01:21,349 --> 01:01:20,640
and their beer

1647
01:01:22,549 --> 01:01:21,359
and

1648
01:01:25,190 --> 01:01:22,559
um

1649
01:01:28,470 --> 01:01:25,200
you know youth of tools and rope

1650
01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:28,480
um and you know like coal

1651
01:01:33,670 --> 01:01:31,920
to uh like the fires to heat the tools

1652
01:01:35,030 --> 01:01:33,680
to torture them with to get them to

1653
01:01:36,069 --> 01:01:35,040
confess

1654
01:01:37,910 --> 01:01:36,079
um

1655
01:01:40,309 --> 01:01:37,920
i've got a book in my bookcase and

1656
01:01:41,829 --> 01:01:40,319
there's a full tariff

1657
01:01:45,270 --> 01:01:41,839
of charges

1658
01:01:47,430 --> 01:01:45,280
so they would so basically a lot of

1659
01:01:50,390 --> 01:01:47,440
people women with property

1660
01:01:51,670 --> 01:01:50,400
they were targeted because then all they

1661
01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:51,680
they could just help themselves through

1662
01:01:54,630 --> 01:01:53,920
the stuff and just torture her to death

1663
01:01:56,950 --> 01:01:54,640
so

1664
01:01:58,950 --> 01:01:56,960
it was quite a good racket and once they

1665
01:02:01,589 --> 01:01:58,960
stopped people being able to make any

1666
01:02:05,910 --> 01:02:01,599
money from it it died off pretty quickly

1667
01:02:09,510 --> 01:02:07,349
but again

1668
01:02:10,390 --> 01:02:09,520
it's like you'll find sometimes that the

1669
01:02:11,589 --> 01:02:10,400
same

1670
01:02:13,750 --> 01:02:11,599
myth

1671
01:02:15,430 --> 01:02:13,760
perpetuates

1672
01:02:17,109 --> 01:02:15,440
you know unless you you research it i

1673
01:02:18,230 --> 01:02:17,119
mean i know i have enough shells

1674
01:02:19,589 --> 01:02:18,240
obviously

1675
01:02:21,589 --> 01:02:19,599
and it's

1676
01:02:23,510 --> 01:02:21,599
we're not doing it to sandals soon you

1677
01:02:25,589 --> 01:02:23,520
know i know better than you you know

1678
01:02:26,710 --> 01:02:25,599
it's it's just educating that's all

1679
01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:26,720
we're trying to

1680
01:02:30,950 --> 01:02:29,440
that's it this is why we do podcasts

1681
01:02:33,029 --> 01:02:30,960
this is why you do that's right long

1682
01:02:34,630 --> 01:02:33,039
beans nobody can if you use this is like

1683
01:02:36,309 --> 01:02:34,640
yeah nobody can know everything about

1684
01:02:37,910 --> 01:02:36,319
everything i mean we're always learning

1685
01:02:40,309 --> 01:02:37,920
a little bit every time we do these

1686
01:02:42,230 --> 01:02:40,319
shows something i know i do it's um

1687
01:02:44,789 --> 01:02:42,240
that's that's why i do it

1688
01:02:46,309 --> 01:02:44,799
for a reason although i i'm gonna give

1689
01:02:48,069 --> 01:02:46,319
away i'm gonna give away a little bit of

1690
01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:48,079
a secret i'm actually thinking about

1691
01:02:51,270 --> 01:02:49,920
cutting down to instead of doing one

1692
01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:51,280
every week i'm going to do one every two

1693
01:02:55,829 --> 01:02:53,280
weeks in a new year i think because

1694
01:02:58,309 --> 01:02:55,839
finding i'm going to say finding 52

1695
01:03:01,510 --> 01:02:58,319
guests and they do one every week for 52

1696
01:03:02,309 --> 01:03:01,520
weeks is a semi-going this whole book

1697
01:03:04,789 --> 01:03:02,319
well

1698
01:03:07,109 --> 01:03:04,799
when i was on the network with access

1699
01:03:08,870 --> 01:03:07,119
northwest and um

1700
01:03:11,270 --> 01:03:08,880
i was like i just even know if there's

1701
01:03:13,029 --> 01:03:11,280
52 people on the scene i actually want

1702
01:03:15,270 --> 01:03:13,039
to talk to you yeah

1703
01:03:17,270 --> 01:03:15,280
i mean i finally guess okay and i

1704
01:03:19,510 --> 01:03:17,280
thought i had some fantastic guests but

1705
01:03:20,950 --> 01:03:19,520
actually sort of yeah keeping keeping it

1706
01:03:23,670 --> 01:03:20,960
going and ken you know and going into

1707
01:03:26,230 --> 01:03:23,680
next year finding another 52 guests

1708
01:03:27,270 --> 01:03:26,240
um without finding the show going a

1709
01:03:29,349 --> 01:03:27,280
little bit

1710
01:03:31,670 --> 01:03:29,359
i don't call it stell because of the

1711
01:03:33,990 --> 01:03:31,680
guess because it isn't but because of me

1712
01:03:35,910 --> 01:03:34,000
i mean because of my limits of what i

1713
01:03:37,510 --> 01:03:35,920
know and what the questions you can ask

1714
01:03:39,829 --> 01:03:37,520
you end up asking the same kind of

1715
01:03:41,510 --> 01:03:39,839
questions every time and it kind of you

1716
01:03:43,589 --> 01:03:41,520
know although the guest is obviously got

1717
01:03:45,109 --> 01:03:43,599
a different story every time

1718
01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:45,119
but um

1719
01:03:48,950 --> 01:03:46,720
i mean i'm actually thinking of i'll get

1720
01:03:49,750 --> 01:03:48,960
to show 200 and call it quits i think i

1721
01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:49,760
might

1722
01:03:54,630 --> 01:03:52,480
different i'm not sure

1723
01:03:57,190 --> 01:03:54,640
but um yeah that's that's my plan going

1724
01:03:58,710 --> 01:03:57,200
forward anyway so you probably got me a

1725
01:04:00,549 --> 01:03:58,720
couple of years doing this yet but

1726
01:04:03,109 --> 01:04:00,559
probably every two weeks other than

1727
01:04:04,710 --> 01:04:03,119
every every week

1728
01:04:07,670 --> 01:04:04,720
i mean it might be worse

1729
01:04:09,430 --> 01:04:07,680
loosely sort of planned for a show a

1730
01:04:16,150 --> 01:04:09,440
podcast every couple of weeks yeah

1731
01:04:20,309 --> 01:04:18,710
more of these as well where we got like

1732
01:04:22,630 --> 01:04:20,319
maybe two or three of us on the show

1733
01:04:24,309 --> 01:04:22,640
rather than just me and a guest you know

1734
01:04:27,029 --> 01:04:24,319
like having sort of like three people

1735
01:04:29,190 --> 01:04:27,039
talking because i think you can get more

1736
01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:29,200
out of because the you know the other

1737
01:04:33,190 --> 01:04:30,960
person sort of doing the co-hosting like

1738
01:04:34,710 --> 01:04:33,200
we find when we've done it before uh

1739
01:04:37,670 --> 01:04:34,720
they can come up with more questions and

1740
01:04:39,990 --> 01:04:37,680
put more into the show you know it's um

1741
01:04:42,230 --> 01:04:40,000
that's what i thought rather than

1742
01:04:44,069 --> 01:04:42,240
dig up questions or because sometimes

1743
01:04:45,829 --> 01:04:44,079
you do i mean i'm not quit i'm not

1744
01:04:47,589 --> 01:04:45,839
criticizing any guests whatsoever but

1745
01:04:49,270 --> 01:04:47,599
sometimes it's a bit of a hard slog

1746
01:04:51,510 --> 01:04:49,280
trying to come up with questions because

1747
01:04:52,630 --> 01:04:51,520
they'll give a short answer and then

1748
01:04:54,069 --> 01:04:52,640
you've got to come up we'll have a

1749
01:04:55,910 --> 01:04:54,079
question you know i'm going to try and

1750
01:04:58,549 --> 01:04:55,920
keep the can't creepy

1751
01:04:59,990 --> 01:04:58,559
keep it going you know

1752
01:05:02,069 --> 01:05:00,000
but

1753
01:05:03,990 --> 01:05:02,079
i've been i've learned things to me

1754
01:05:05,510 --> 01:05:04,000
doing the podcasts

1755
01:05:07,029 --> 01:05:05,520
you learned something you know i've

1756
01:05:08,789 --> 01:05:07,039
learned other little bits about

1757
01:05:10,950 --> 01:05:08,799
witchcraft i'm going to go away and

1758
01:05:12,230 --> 01:05:10,960
research because it's it's like you

1759
01:05:14,150 --> 01:05:12,240
could do

1760
01:05:16,710 --> 01:05:14,160
an entire program on that and you

1761
01:05:19,029 --> 01:05:16,720
wouldn't scrape the surface you know the

1762
01:05:24,870 --> 01:05:19,039
herbalism side that that interests me as

1763
01:05:30,069 --> 01:05:28,470
don't we so it's um it's always good

1764
01:05:31,510 --> 01:05:30,079
to be honest that was more towards sasha

1765
01:05:33,190 --> 01:05:31,520
no no i know that's what i'm saying it's

1766
01:05:34,630 --> 01:05:33,200
always good that's what i mean it's

1767
01:05:36,230 --> 01:05:34,640
always good for a lot we all get

1768
01:05:37,910 --> 01:05:36,240
something out of it well i've done a

1769
01:05:41,349 --> 01:05:37,920
session because she knows so much

1770
01:05:46,309 --> 01:05:43,270
i don't know

1771
01:05:47,670 --> 01:05:46,319
you know just this has become a little

1772
01:05:49,750 --> 01:05:47,680
you know i've obviously always been

1773
01:05:52,150 --> 01:05:49,760
interested in witchcraft and stuff but

1774
01:05:54,710 --> 01:05:52,160
the most recent thing about the witches

1775
01:05:58,230 --> 01:05:54,720
and the beer um it's not which is it's

1776
01:06:00,710 --> 01:05:58,240
just women breweries um when in lockdown

1777
01:06:02,069 --> 01:06:00,720
i've got balls i've got a bulk uh sacred

1778
01:06:03,910 --> 01:06:02,079
healing beers

1779
01:06:06,630 --> 01:06:03,920
and all the information's in there and i

1780
01:06:07,829 --> 01:06:06,640
was like totally fascinated and

1781
01:06:10,230 --> 01:06:07,839
um

1782
01:06:11,510 --> 01:06:10,240
it was because i've read an article uh

1783
01:06:13,990 --> 01:06:11,520
somebody had written about what they'd

1784
01:06:15,670 --> 01:06:14,000
read so i went looking for the book that

1785
01:06:18,630 --> 01:06:15,680
they referenced and bought it and it was

1786
01:06:20,069 --> 01:06:18,640
just brilliant sacred healing bees and

1787
01:06:22,630 --> 01:06:20,079
there's all the recipes in it but

1788
01:06:24,230 --> 01:06:22,640
there's all the history as well and so

1789
01:06:26,549 --> 01:06:24,240
some of the plants are just impossible

1790
01:06:28,470 --> 01:06:26,559
to get so i've started growing them

1791
01:06:30,549 --> 01:06:28,480
so it's become like this horticultural

1792
01:06:32,950 --> 01:06:30,559
thing where i haven't got anything

1793
01:06:35,109 --> 01:06:32,960
brewed at the moment or brewing but i am

1794
01:06:36,470 --> 01:06:35,119
actually about to brew something for

1795
01:06:39,190 --> 01:06:36,480
christmas

1796
01:06:42,069 --> 01:06:39,200
so uh and i grow my own mandrake and

1797
01:06:43,270 --> 01:06:42,079
hang pain and all that kind of stuff and

1798
01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:43,280
uh

1799
01:06:47,029 --> 01:06:44,400
so

1800
01:06:50,230 --> 01:06:47,039
i've

1801
01:06:51,910 --> 01:06:50,240
kind of been a bit of a gardener now

1802
01:06:53,349 --> 01:06:51,920
sorry it's in my mind when you said

1803
01:06:55,109 --> 01:06:53,359
mandrake there was a man drake the

1804
01:06:58,309 --> 01:06:55,119
magician in the early days it was a

1805
01:07:12,950 --> 01:06:58,319
comic strip do you remember that

1806
01:07:18,150 --> 01:07:15,190
is it easy to get hold of or is it not

1807
01:07:19,750 --> 01:07:18,160
so i read the magazine

1808
01:07:20,789 --> 01:07:19,760
thing and then

1809
01:07:22,390 --> 01:07:20,799
um

1810
01:07:24,549 --> 01:07:22,400
just went and looked

1811
01:07:25,990 --> 01:07:24,559
and found it straight away thank you

1812
01:07:27,190 --> 01:07:26,000
sorry i was going to say if you've got a

1813
01:07:28,789 --> 01:07:27,200
link

1814
01:07:31,910 --> 01:07:28,799
am i allowed to have it now it's just

1815
01:07:33,829 --> 01:07:31,920
like i know i'd find it interesting

1816
01:07:38,230 --> 01:07:33,839
looks like my mom stacks the books but

1817
01:07:41,829 --> 01:07:38,240
as we're all fiction of mine a lot by

1818
01:07:42,870 --> 01:07:41,839
men are all about plants and

1819
01:07:44,950 --> 01:07:42,880
and

1820
01:07:46,390 --> 01:07:44,960
aliens but i never read the alien ones i

1821
01:07:47,670 --> 01:07:46,400
just keep buying them but i never read

1822
01:07:49,109 --> 01:07:47,680
them

1823
01:07:50,789 --> 01:07:49,119
hey do you think that's why we've got so

1824
01:07:51,750 --> 01:07:50,799
many different sorts of beers did they

1825
01:07:53,349 --> 01:07:51,760
come from

1826
01:07:56,150 --> 01:07:53,359
because they're all different different

1827
01:07:58,950 --> 01:07:56,160
witches in the past ruin is something

1828
01:08:00,870 --> 01:07:58,960
it's absolutely ridiculously easy i just

1829
01:08:02,870 --> 01:08:00,880
couldn't believe it

1830
01:08:04,309 --> 01:08:02,880
you just need to throw a few things in

1831
01:08:06,230 --> 01:08:04,319
the bucket put the lid on walk away

1832
01:08:07,990 --> 01:08:06,240
leave it and then come back a couple of

1833
01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:08,000
weeks later and

1834
01:08:10,630 --> 01:08:08,880
um

1835
01:08:13,029 --> 01:08:10,640
you know if there's any sediment or

1836
01:08:15,190 --> 01:08:13,039
whatever you have to get

1837
01:08:16,789 --> 01:08:15,200
your bottle in it or put a bit more

1838
01:08:19,189 --> 01:08:16,799
sugar in it

1839
01:08:21,110 --> 01:08:19,199
then bottle it and then leave it and

1840
01:08:22,870 --> 01:08:21,120
then in a couple of weeks you can drink

1841
01:08:25,030 --> 01:08:22,880
it and it's fizzy and it's just like

1842
01:08:26,950 --> 01:08:25,040
what that is ridiculous oh i've got some

1843
01:08:29,910 --> 01:08:26,960
old socks and an onion i can't do that

1844
01:08:35,189 --> 01:08:31,669
so the book is

1845
01:08:37,510 --> 01:08:35,199
written by um stephen harrod

1846
01:08:40,309 --> 01:08:37,520
booner b-u-h-n-e-r

1847
01:08:42,709 --> 01:08:40,319
and author of sacred plant sacred plant

1848
01:08:45,510 --> 01:08:42,719
medicine i've not got that one

1849
01:08:49,030 --> 01:08:45,520
i'll have to get that one

1850
01:08:51,349 --> 01:08:49,040
so yeah sacred hit sacred and herbal

1851
01:08:52,870 --> 01:08:51,359
healing beers it's called

1852
01:08:54,630 --> 01:08:52,880
thank you

1853
01:08:57,910 --> 01:08:54,640
hey further on from that stuff did you

1854
01:09:00,550 --> 01:08:57,920
have a book of spells as well

1855
01:09:03,829 --> 01:09:00,560
i've got loads of books like that

1856
01:09:06,470 --> 01:09:03,839
i'm thinking that people starve

1857
01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:06,480
to say linking that to the witches and

1858
01:09:10,149 --> 01:09:08,319
the witchcraft obviously they they must

1859
01:09:11,510 --> 01:09:10,159
have used these spells at certain times

1860
01:09:13,990 --> 01:09:11,520
on people

1861
01:09:16,709 --> 01:09:14,000
or or or did they not or is it was that

1862
01:09:18,550 --> 01:09:16,719
just all fallacy again

1863
01:09:21,590 --> 01:09:18,560
well most of the women accused of

1864
01:09:23,030 --> 01:09:21,600
witchcraft were not witches

1865
01:09:24,950 --> 01:09:23,040
most of the women who died were not

1866
01:09:28,070 --> 01:09:24,960
actually witches so where did all the

1867
01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:29,269
um

1868
01:09:32,630 --> 01:09:31,120
well i suppose or were they from people

1869
01:09:34,950 --> 01:09:32,640
who are alchemists because they were

1870
01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:34,960
actually mixed up in a lot of but they

1871
01:09:39,269 --> 01:09:37,279
were were they really witches as well

1872
01:09:41,910 --> 01:09:39,279
alchemists

1873
01:09:43,829 --> 01:09:41,920
but you see it's just people and like

1874
01:09:46,470 --> 01:09:43,839
you know puppet dolls and things like

1875
01:09:49,030 --> 01:09:46,480
that voodoo dolls every

1876
01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:49,040
magical system it's got its mirror with

1877
01:09:53,510 --> 01:09:50,880
another one so you don't need to

1878
01:09:54,470 --> 01:09:53,520
appropriate or anything because

1879
01:09:57,990 --> 01:09:54,480
uh

1880
01:09:59,590 --> 01:09:58,000
it everything it's kind of mirrored

1881
01:10:01,270 --> 01:09:59,600
because it's the kind of set of

1882
01:10:04,390 --> 01:10:01,280
principles and it's

1883
01:10:06,310 --> 01:10:04,400
basically mental energy

1884
01:10:07,990 --> 01:10:06,320
and psychology

1885
01:10:10,470 --> 01:10:08,000
and especially when you're working with

1886
01:10:13,830 --> 01:10:10,480
other people or healing them you know

1887
01:10:15,669 --> 01:10:13,840
oh the medicines etc that was all herbal

1888
01:10:17,750 --> 01:10:15,679
so the spells and things like that

1889
01:10:19,430 --> 01:10:17,760
people

1890
01:10:21,270 --> 01:10:19,440
would make poppet dolls and then put

1891
01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:21,280
needles in them and that's the same as a

1892
01:10:25,189 --> 01:10:22,880
voodoo doll

1893
01:10:29,669 --> 01:10:25,199
you see what i mean yeah

1894
01:10:32,390 --> 01:10:29,679
and it's just um ill intent

1895
01:10:34,310 --> 01:10:32,400
positive intention it whatever it is

1896
01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:34,320
it's you throwing

1897
01:10:40,709 --> 01:10:37,920
energetic daggers into somebody else's

1898
01:10:43,030 --> 01:10:40,719
energy field right yeah so really that's

1899
01:10:46,630 --> 01:10:43,040
just like a target for your

1900
01:10:47,910 --> 01:10:46,640
um intentions really the the goal

1901
01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:47,920
yeah yeah

1902
01:10:51,030 --> 01:10:49,600
you know you can really

1903
01:10:51,990 --> 01:10:51,040
they come on the call it's psychic

1904
01:10:55,590 --> 01:10:52,000
attack

1905
01:10:58,310 --> 01:10:55,600
if somebody's spoken about badly

1906
01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:58,320
um or any ill will is being fired in

1907
01:11:01,990 --> 01:11:00,320
their direction if a lot of people can

1908
01:11:03,669 --> 01:11:02,000
concentrate on that like you know when

1909
01:11:06,950 --> 01:11:03,679
you're trolling somebody that's

1910
01:11:09,110 --> 01:11:08,310
you know

1911
01:11:13,990 --> 01:11:09,120
that

1912
01:11:16,870 --> 01:11:14,000
what was happening was people accusing

1913
01:11:19,510 --> 01:11:16,880
people of stupid things

1914
01:11:20,550 --> 01:11:19,520
and it was a lot of hysteria and most of

1915
01:11:21,430 --> 01:11:20,560
the people

1916
01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:21,440
who

1917
01:11:30,630 --> 01:11:27,760
it's kind of calling them witches

1918
01:11:32,229 --> 01:11:30,640
isn't right do you know what i mean

1919
01:11:33,830 --> 01:11:32,239
i mean you know we've all heard about

1920
01:11:35,350 --> 01:11:33,840
the witch father general i'm not sure if

1921
01:11:37,189 --> 01:11:35,360
he got up your way did he say in

1922
01:11:39,430 --> 01:11:37,199
liverpool or in that area he was sort of

1923
01:11:40,870 --> 01:11:39,440
all down this area wasn't he

1924
01:11:45,990 --> 01:11:40,880
no

1925
01:11:48,550 --> 01:11:46,000
he was sort of like the anglia area and

1926
01:11:51,590 --> 01:11:48,560
i believe yeah

1927
01:11:52,550 --> 01:11:51,600
yeah the only stuff i know about

1928
01:11:55,510 --> 01:11:52,560
here

1929
01:11:57,910 --> 01:11:55,520
is very basic and it's all about the

1930
01:12:00,709 --> 01:11:57,920
viking invasion

1931
01:12:04,229 --> 01:12:00,719
it's everywhere is named is all of

1932
01:12:06,070 --> 01:12:04,239
everywhere is a viking name around here

1933
01:12:08,630 --> 01:12:06,080
yeah liverpool

1934
01:12:09,830 --> 01:12:08,640
and his robbie means lookout or lookout

1935
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:09,840
point

1936
01:12:12,709 --> 01:12:10,800
um

1937
01:12:14,550 --> 01:12:12,719
and this was all marsh area and there

1938
01:12:16,070 --> 01:12:14,560
was a lookout point here

1939
01:12:17,910 --> 01:12:16,080
found um

1940
01:12:20,550 --> 01:12:17,920
a long boat somewhere nearby and there's

1941
01:12:23,350 --> 01:12:20,560
the ghost story of the police officer

1942
01:12:25,669 --> 01:12:23,360
and the guy that he was chasing that saw

1943
01:12:28,149 --> 01:12:25,679
a viking longboat complete with green

1944
01:12:29,669 --> 01:12:28,159
cloud and lightning sailing past them

1945
01:12:31,830 --> 01:12:29,679
past the church

1946
01:12:33,430 --> 01:12:31,840
and sailed into the ground

1947
01:12:35,830 --> 01:12:33,440
and

1948
01:12:37,669 --> 01:12:35,840
coming down towards our house from the

1949
01:12:38,870 --> 01:12:37,679
church just up the road

1950
01:12:41,430 --> 01:12:38,880
so

1951
01:12:44,390 --> 01:12:41,440
there was water here and that's the path

1952
01:12:45,189 --> 01:12:44,400
where they took was all you know uh

1953
01:12:46,950 --> 01:12:45,199
wet

1954
01:12:49,510 --> 01:12:46,960
but not when they saw it obviously it

1955
01:12:52,790 --> 01:12:49,520
was a thousand years ago or whenever

1956
01:12:54,870 --> 01:12:52,800
so this police officer this guy they've

1957
01:12:57,669 --> 01:12:54,880
like seen this happen

1958
01:12:59,030 --> 01:12:57,679
and um gave statements and

1959
01:13:01,110 --> 01:12:59,040
it was only because of the police

1960
01:13:03,910 --> 01:13:01,120
officer because he was so normal and

1961
01:13:05,910 --> 01:13:03,920
stern that they believed him or

1962
01:13:07,030 --> 01:13:05,920
something like that but yeah

1963
01:13:11,830 --> 01:13:07,040
so we've

1964
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:16,070
sailing past

1965
01:13:21,750 --> 01:13:18,550
open curtains oh you're right love yeah

1966
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:21,760
i'm fine uh ship's gone again okay yeah

1967
01:13:25,750 --> 01:13:23,760
i think the vikings got around quite a

1968
01:13:27,350 --> 01:13:25,760
lot in great britain didn't they back in

1969
01:13:29,270 --> 01:13:27,360
the early days it seems i wonder if they

1970
01:13:31,350 --> 01:13:29,280
actually sailed round the island you

1971
01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:31,360
know because we are in ireland um or if

1972
01:13:35,669 --> 01:13:33,120
they actually went across land i wonder

1973
01:13:37,350 --> 01:13:35,679
you know it crosses my mind sometimes

1974
01:13:39,350 --> 01:13:37,360
you know like just landed on different

1975
01:13:41,350 --> 01:13:39,360
places

1976
01:13:46,070 --> 01:13:41,360
they both didn't is because they put

1977
01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:46,080
wheels on the boat so i had to move

1978
01:13:49,350 --> 01:13:48,080
they were very savvy yeah

1979
01:13:51,189 --> 01:13:49,360
yeah i know we're we're obviously

1980
01:13:53,270 --> 01:13:51,199
leaving some day that was quite an early

1981
01:13:54,390 --> 01:13:53,280
um settlement for the vikings as well we

1982
01:13:56,149 --> 01:13:54,400
had um

1983
01:13:57,350 --> 01:13:56,159
what's the name of the place i've got

1984
01:13:59,270 --> 01:13:57,360
what it was called

1985
01:14:01,270 --> 01:13:59,280
but um yeah they've got a lot of barking

1986
01:14:02,070 --> 01:14:01,280
bits and pieces here

1987
01:14:03,590 --> 01:14:02,080
um

1988
01:14:04,709 --> 01:14:03,600
oh sutton who

1989
01:14:05,990 --> 01:14:04,719
isn't it

1990
01:14:09,350 --> 01:14:06,000
they've got that oh yeah they've got the

1991
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:09,360
viking helmet and everything yeah

1992
01:14:13,590 --> 01:14:11,920
that's um yeah that's about your way

1993
01:14:17,350 --> 01:14:13,600
juliet i'll definitely vikings ever got

1994
01:14:18,790 --> 01:14:17,360
up to um blackboard today

1995
01:14:20,470 --> 01:14:18,800
more

1996
01:14:22,390 --> 01:14:20,480
sort of

1997
01:14:23,990 --> 01:14:22,400
curcumish

1998
01:14:26,790 --> 01:14:24,000
um

1999
01:14:28,950 --> 01:14:26,800
more lancashire to be honest blackpool

2000
01:14:30,470 --> 01:14:28,960
didn't really exist until sort of

2001
01:14:31,990 --> 01:14:30,480
recently when you think but you've got

2002
01:14:35,510 --> 01:14:32,000
like um

2003
01:14:37,910 --> 01:14:35,520
chester yeah as an example kirkham um

2004
01:14:40,070 --> 01:14:37,920
more like the villages there's a place

2005
01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:40,080
we term as over wire

2006
01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:42,560
so you add salt mines there's a place

2007
01:14:48,229 --> 01:14:45,040
called cockasand the cockasand abbey

2008
01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:48,239
which i visited oh my god i so it's

2009
01:14:51,590 --> 01:14:49,920
fantastic it's like from the 12th

2010
01:14:55,189 --> 01:14:51,600
century

2011
01:14:57,669 --> 01:14:55,199
oh it's just beauty it's really desolate

2012
01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:57,679
it's just and you've got views of morgan

2013
01:15:01,270 --> 01:14:59,280
but unfortunately you can see haitian

2014
01:15:05,189 --> 01:15:01,280
path section as well

2015
01:15:08,310 --> 01:15:05,199
but visiting i was lucky enough to

2016
01:15:09,669 --> 01:15:08,320
befriend shall we say or blag

2017
01:15:10,470 --> 01:15:09,679
and i'm at the gentleman who had the

2018
01:15:12,229 --> 01:15:10,480
king

2019
01:15:14,390 --> 01:15:12,239
so i said you know can we come because

2020
01:15:17,270 --> 01:15:14,400
it's it's open like once a year if that

2021
01:15:19,990 --> 01:15:17,280
but it was absolutely fantastic to go

2022
01:15:20,870 --> 01:15:20,000
and visit and we filmed and it was just

2023
01:15:30,390 --> 01:15:20,880
like

2024
01:15:31,590 --> 01:15:30,400
he was sort of

2025
01:15:32,550 --> 01:15:31,600
you know like

2026
01:15:34,310 --> 01:15:32,560
and it's

2027
01:15:37,669 --> 01:15:34,320
i never realized it was like a grade one

2028
01:15:39,350 --> 01:15:37,679
listed monument it was that is it

2029
01:15:41,430 --> 01:15:39,360
you wouldn't know it's just one of those

2030
01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:41,440
weird things that you just sort of take

2031
01:15:45,990 --> 01:15:43,120
for granted and he says if you look

2032
01:15:48,229 --> 01:15:46,000
around the area of lancashire he says

2033
01:15:51,590 --> 01:15:48,239
people would pilfer the stone so you'd

2034
01:15:53,830 --> 01:15:51,600
see it in barns and things it was just

2035
01:15:57,030 --> 01:15:53,840
absolutely peculiar but

2036
01:15:59,830 --> 01:15:57,040
to be fair it's more

2037
01:16:03,110 --> 01:15:59,840
spatterings of of lancashire

2038
01:16:05,990 --> 01:16:03,910
yeah

2039
01:16:08,070 --> 01:16:06,000
not really not really it was more sort

2040
01:16:09,910 --> 01:16:08,080
of it was just like pockets of little

2041
01:16:11,910 --> 01:16:09,920
villages that sort of kept themselves to

2042
01:16:13,590 --> 01:16:11,920
themselves yeah

2043
01:16:15,669 --> 01:16:13,600
yeah i think i'm coming to appreciate

2044
01:16:17,189 --> 01:16:15,679
our country i mean as old as i am i

2045
01:16:19,270 --> 01:16:17,199
think i'm coming to appreciate our

2046
01:16:20,390 --> 01:16:19,280
country more than i may have done in the

2047
01:16:21,830 --> 01:16:20,400
past because

2048
01:16:23,350 --> 01:16:21,840
i've found we've been going around quite

2049
01:16:25,750 --> 01:16:23,360
a bit and you know some of the old

2050
01:16:28,070 --> 01:16:25,760
villages that are really beautiful and

2051
01:16:30,550 --> 01:16:28,080
you can imagine you know why people like

2052
01:16:31,830 --> 01:16:30,560
to come here you know where we should

2053
01:16:33,270 --> 01:16:31,840
get off to

2054
01:16:35,030 --> 01:16:33,280
spain and america and god knows what

2055
01:16:36,070 --> 01:16:35,040
else people like coming here because of

2056
01:16:38,310 --> 01:16:36,080
the history

2057
01:16:39,350 --> 01:16:38,320
you know it's really fascinating in our

2058
01:16:41,590 --> 01:16:39,360
history

2059
01:16:43,830 --> 01:16:41,600
and i really wish i'd spent more time

2060
01:16:46,229 --> 01:16:43,840
doing it when i was younger

2061
01:16:47,990 --> 01:16:46,239
i'm trying to catch up

2062
01:16:49,990 --> 01:16:48,000
i'm making up for it now i mean that's

2063
01:16:51,990 --> 01:16:50,000
what i'm trying to do yeah

2064
01:16:53,030 --> 01:16:52,000
and people sort of say oh you you know

2065
01:16:54,870 --> 01:16:53,040
you said what you're gonna do when you

2066
01:16:56,709 --> 01:16:54,880
retire i'm trying to i may move for 16

2067
01:16:59,110 --> 01:16:56,719
when i retire from work

2068
01:17:00,550 --> 01:16:59,120
and i want to move out of blackpool oh

2069
01:17:02,310 --> 01:17:00,560
yeah but it's blackpool said yeah but

2070
01:17:04,550 --> 01:17:02,320
you don't live here there's good bits

2071
01:17:05,350 --> 01:17:04,560
and bad bits i said i want to move over

2072
01:17:09,189 --> 01:17:05,360
why

2073
01:17:10,950 --> 01:17:09,199
know when you sort of find somewhere and

2074
01:17:12,470 --> 01:17:10,960
you think this is nice

2075
01:17:14,229 --> 01:17:12,480
it's a weird thing to explain but it's

2076
01:17:17,430 --> 01:17:14,239
like you know when you found a nice

2077
01:17:18,630 --> 01:17:17,440
house or a nice person or a nice friend

2078
01:17:21,110 --> 01:17:18,640
in fact

2079
01:17:23,189 --> 01:17:21,120
yeah you just know it's good feeling

2080
01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:23,199
yeah that makes sense yeah

2081
01:17:26,470 --> 01:17:24,239
and i just

2082
01:17:28,310 --> 01:17:26,480
i feel happy when i visit there it's

2083
01:17:30,550 --> 01:17:28,320
like a 40 minutes in the car because i

2084
01:17:32,790 --> 01:17:30,560
live up there blackpool airport and it's

2085
01:17:35,110 --> 01:17:32,800
just like i like visiting and i like

2086
01:17:37,430 --> 01:17:35,120
sort of exploring and thinking

2087
01:17:40,229 --> 01:17:37,440
wow that was pakistan abbey when we sort

2088
01:17:42,149 --> 01:17:40,239
of stood inside it and what he'd done it

2089
01:17:44,229 --> 01:17:42,159
sort of put little markers

2090
01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:44,239
where things had eroded and he says you

2091
01:17:49,590 --> 01:17:47,280
know this floor used to dumb yes

2092
01:17:50,550 --> 01:17:49,600
dead bodies under here

2093
01:17:52,470 --> 01:17:50,560
also

2094
01:17:55,270 --> 01:17:52,480
has he got any sort of history of ghosts

2095
01:17:59,189 --> 01:17:55,280
or anything there do you know oh

2096
01:18:01,110 --> 01:17:59,199
monks it's going back to monks again

2097
01:18:03,430 --> 01:18:01,120
but again that's something i definitely

2098
01:18:05,110 --> 01:18:03,440
want to revisit and you know through my

2099
01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:05,120
other history related friends day as

2100
01:18:08,790 --> 01:18:06,960
well so we've got things planned that we

2101
01:18:11,669 --> 01:18:08,800
can research and we've found we've got

2102
01:18:12,950 --> 01:18:11,679
access to a historical society called

2103
01:18:14,550 --> 01:18:12,960
piling

2104
01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:14,560
which is a little village beautiful

2105
01:18:17,110 --> 01:18:15,840
little village

2106
01:18:20,790 --> 01:18:17,120
and

2107
01:18:22,149 --> 01:18:20,800
they want us to be the librarians

2108
01:18:24,229 --> 01:18:22,159
i love books

2109
01:18:26,790 --> 01:18:24,239
so myself and my friend rochelle were

2110
01:18:28,390 --> 01:18:26,800
absolutely delighted because he sort of

2111
01:18:30,390 --> 01:18:28,400
opened this cupboard this is the

2112
01:18:31,350 --> 01:18:30,400
gentleman bob who's got the key for the

2113
01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:31,360
abby

2114
01:18:34,550 --> 01:18:33,360
or what's left of it anyway do you think

2115
01:18:36,709 --> 01:18:34,560
you're going to have fun looking through

2116
01:18:38,950 --> 01:18:36,719
this well my eyes lit

2117
01:18:41,110 --> 01:18:38,960
michelle's eyes lit up because you know

2118
01:18:42,940 --> 01:18:41,120
sometimes when you've seen something but

2119
01:18:44,149 --> 01:18:42,950
you've never been able to buy a book

2120
01:18:47,030 --> 01:18:44,159
[Music]

2121
01:18:48,790 --> 01:18:47,040
sasha might appreciate this more but

2122
01:18:49,990 --> 01:18:48,800
you know what i mean you you know when

2123
01:18:53,189 --> 01:18:50,000
you have it in your hand and you're like

2124
01:18:55,030 --> 01:18:53,199
what are the contents yeah

2125
01:18:57,350 --> 01:18:55,040
that i'm looking forward to because i

2126
01:19:00,390 --> 01:18:57,360
saw little sneaky bits and i was like

2127
01:19:02,310 --> 01:19:00,400
did you see yes

2128
01:19:04,550 --> 01:19:02,320
why are you getting excited about books

2129
01:19:05,830 --> 01:19:04,560
it's knowledge

2130
01:19:07,430 --> 01:19:05,840
i'll tell you

2131
01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:07,440
talk about old books i've bought

2132
01:19:11,510 --> 01:19:09,520
collections of the old books that you

2133
01:19:13,030 --> 01:19:11,520
could never buy as books usually cost

2134
01:19:15,350 --> 01:19:13,040
you a fortune but you can get a lot of

2135
01:19:16,790 --> 01:19:15,360
digital collections of these things

2136
01:19:18,870 --> 01:19:16,800
on your computer

2137
01:19:20,950 --> 01:19:18,880
i've got a few hundred books like um

2138
01:19:23,669 --> 01:19:20,960
like the old paranormals and ghost books

2139
01:19:25,510 --> 01:19:23,679
and hauntings and all sorts of different

2140
01:19:27,110 --> 01:19:25,520
subjects and they're really amazing you

2141
01:19:28,709 --> 01:19:27,120
know you've got a lot of photographs of

2142
01:19:30,870 --> 01:19:28,719
the old books and you can just sort of

2143
01:19:33,030 --> 01:19:30,880
flick through them uh obviously it's not

2144
01:19:34,630 --> 01:19:33,040
like having a book in your hands but

2145
01:19:37,590 --> 01:19:34,640
you'd never like i say you'd never be

2146
01:19:39,669 --> 01:19:37,600
able to own those books anyway

2147
01:19:42,149 --> 01:19:39,679
some i think sometimes it's no way you

2148
01:19:44,149 --> 01:19:42,159
can buy no no

2149
01:19:46,709 --> 01:19:44,159
i'm very lucky in that respect i've got

2150
01:19:48,070 --> 01:19:46,719
a friend called bob bob the book bob the

2151
01:19:49,750 --> 01:19:48,080
booker

2152
01:19:54,149 --> 01:19:49,760
bob the book guy but he used to be a

2153
01:19:58,709 --> 01:19:56,709
bob the bobby uh bob dobson and he's got

2154
01:20:00,790 --> 01:19:58,719
this warehouse and again a village

2155
01:20:02,470 --> 01:20:00,800
called staining this time and he said

2156
01:20:04,950 --> 01:20:02,480
come and see my storage unit there was

2157
01:20:09,590 --> 01:20:04,960
me expecting like a chef oh no

2158
01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:11,270
um

2159
01:20:14,950 --> 01:20:12,880
it was just absolutely fantastic do you

2160
01:20:16,870 --> 01:20:14,960
remember when you got the really old

2161
01:20:18,709 --> 01:20:16,880
newspapers and you know you could you

2162
01:20:20,229 --> 01:20:18,719
could hide under them yeah that they

2163
01:20:21,430 --> 01:20:20,239
were massive

2164
01:20:23,830 --> 01:20:21,440
um

2165
01:20:26,390 --> 01:20:23,840
they used to do books for sort of the

2166
01:20:29,510 --> 01:20:26,400
falcos and he says i thought you might

2167
01:20:33,350 --> 01:20:29,520
like these and i was just my eyes lit up

2168
01:20:34,229 --> 01:20:33,360
the earliest one i've got is from 1887.

2169
01:20:36,390 --> 01:20:34,239
wow

2170
01:20:38,149 --> 01:20:36,400
and it's just this old book from like

2171
01:20:40,070 --> 01:20:38,159
you know january the first to the end of

2172
01:20:42,550 --> 01:20:40,080
it and it was just like reading and it

2173
01:20:45,830 --> 01:20:42,560
was so eloquently written the news

2174
01:20:47,270 --> 01:20:45,840
reports not like today yeah it was to me

2175
01:20:48,870 --> 01:20:47,280
i like to read things like that because

2176
01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:48,880
that's where you get the good history

2177
01:20:52,550 --> 01:20:49,760
from

2178
01:20:56,470 --> 01:20:52,560
it's like something that um

2179
01:20:57,669 --> 01:20:56,480
oh mike i forgot to say that uh mike

2180
01:20:58,950 --> 01:20:57,679
you know

2181
01:21:00,870 --> 01:20:58,960
but he was like

2182
01:21:02,709 --> 01:21:00,880
try and access libraries try and access

2183
01:21:04,790 --> 01:21:02,719
books if you can get all of them because

2184
01:21:06,629 --> 01:21:04,800
when i sort of bought them they're like

2185
01:21:09,430 --> 01:21:06,639
i've got five

2186
01:21:11,430 --> 01:21:09,440
there were 50 credit and it was like

2187
01:21:13,110 --> 01:21:11,440
and somebody actually said you paid 50

2188
01:21:15,189 --> 01:21:13,120
quid for that and i went trust me

2189
01:21:17,510 --> 01:21:15,199
they're worth more than 50 quid yeah

2190
01:21:19,669 --> 01:21:17,520
well no no no not in a monetary i'm i

2191
01:21:21,910 --> 01:21:19,679
was very lucky that i had the money to

2192
01:21:22,629 --> 01:21:21,920
do that not everybody does

2193
01:21:25,590 --> 01:21:22,639
so

2194
01:21:27,270 --> 01:21:25,600
michelle isn't as

2195
01:21:29,750 --> 01:21:27,280
i will buy things for her because i'm

2196
01:21:31,590 --> 01:21:29,760
sneaky and i'll go oh i got you this and

2197
01:21:32,870 --> 01:21:31,600
she's like will you stop it and i said

2198
01:21:35,750 --> 01:21:32,880
yeah but

2199
01:21:38,709 --> 01:21:35,760
i can't take it with me come on no i

2200
01:21:40,709 --> 01:21:38,719
like trying to it's just

2201
01:21:43,350 --> 01:21:40,719
somebody i can talk to and go

2202
01:21:45,910 --> 01:21:43,360
look

2203
01:21:47,750 --> 01:21:45,920
we've read something about pin fold that

2204
01:21:48,629 --> 01:21:47,760
was haunted

2205
01:21:50,149 --> 01:21:48,639
and

2206
01:21:50,950 --> 01:21:50,159
we were trying to say where the hell is

2207
01:21:59,350 --> 01:21:50,960
it

2208
01:22:01,430 --> 01:21:59,360
know when you start piecing everything

2209
01:22:03,270 --> 01:22:01,440
together and you get oh yeah again you

2210
01:22:05,910 --> 01:22:03,280
can hear the tone of my voice i sound

2211
01:22:13,590 --> 01:22:05,920
like an excited idiot but

2212
01:22:17,510 --> 01:22:15,430
i think it's around about 1900 it's

2213
01:22:18,870 --> 01:22:17,520
about the the great plague it's all

2214
01:22:22,229 --> 01:22:18,880
about i'll pick it up at a boat sale

2215
01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:23,830
show that boot cell you came to us with

2216
01:22:27,590 --> 01:22:26,400
that sasha oh that um

2217
01:22:29,350 --> 01:22:27,600
yeah there's a nice little boot cell

2218
01:22:31,189 --> 01:22:29,360
wasn't it that one

2219
01:22:33,830 --> 01:22:31,199
yeah yeah

2220
01:22:35,669 --> 01:22:33,840
it was a good one

2221
01:22:37,510 --> 01:22:35,679
because you picked up a pestle and

2222
01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:37,520
mortar was it there i think there's like

2223
01:22:42,470 --> 01:22:40,000
an old uh yeah

2224
01:22:44,149 --> 01:22:42,480
and some and a bomb bracelet

2225
01:22:45,669 --> 01:22:44,159
that's right yeah yeah

2226
01:22:47,350 --> 01:22:45,679
yeah any unusual things there didn't

2227
01:22:49,430 --> 01:22:47,360
they

2228
01:22:51,669 --> 01:22:49,440
i thought nobody did that boot cell now

2229
01:22:54,229 --> 01:22:51,679
it's the same anyway

2230
01:22:55,750 --> 01:22:54,239
won't go through more boot sales now but

2231
01:22:57,189 --> 01:22:55,760
because having we have to walk the dogs

2232
01:22:59,030 --> 01:22:57,199
in the morning so we don't get a chance

2233
01:23:01,910 --> 01:22:59,040
to go to them now so it's uh because

2234
01:23:04,470 --> 01:23:01,920
that was a that was a lazy bones one

2235
01:23:05,990 --> 01:23:04,480
um for our international this is that

2236
01:23:09,910 --> 01:23:06,000
means people that can't get our bed

2237
01:23:13,430 --> 01:23:11,910
which is which is usually us

2238
01:23:14,709 --> 01:23:13,440
now i think this one started about 11

2239
01:23:18,229 --> 01:23:14,719
o'clock in the morning which is just

2240
01:23:21,510 --> 01:23:19,910
yeah i'll tell you what one more little

2241
01:23:22,470 --> 01:23:21,520
question before we before we wind up

2242
01:23:24,149 --> 01:23:22,480
what's up

2243
01:23:26,550 --> 01:23:24,159
we i definitely brought this this up

2244
01:23:29,110 --> 01:23:26,560
before but i've never talked about some

2245
01:23:30,550 --> 01:23:29,120
vampires on this show very much and i

2246
01:23:31,910 --> 01:23:30,560
always thought that would be one of the

2247
01:23:33,830 --> 01:23:31,920
big subjects that people would want to

2248
01:23:36,709 --> 01:23:33,840
talk about or someone would talk about

2249
01:23:40,310 --> 01:23:36,719
but it never seems to come up

2250
01:23:45,430 --> 01:23:42,870
on vampires yeah well

2251
01:23:47,270 --> 01:23:45,440
i think there are people who can

2252
01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:47,280
literally zap your energy

2253
01:23:51,110 --> 01:23:49,360
but as far as like

2254
01:23:53,590 --> 01:23:51,120
people turning into bats and drinking

2255
01:23:55,669 --> 01:23:53,600
blood and all uh

2256
01:23:58,310 --> 01:23:55,679
people can't drink blood we it's not

2257
01:24:00,950 --> 01:23:58,320
very good for us we just throw it up

2258
01:24:02,470 --> 01:24:00,960
so i don't really believe in vampires

2259
01:24:05,750 --> 01:24:02,480
but i know that people get into that

2260
01:24:07,350 --> 01:24:05,760
vampire archetypal vibe and

2261
01:24:09,669 --> 01:24:07,360
you know

2262
01:24:11,669 --> 01:24:09,679
do strange stuff with each other

2263
01:24:15,110 --> 01:24:11,679
yeah i know

2264
01:24:17,030 --> 01:24:15,120
but now um i've i don't know you need to

2265
01:24:19,430 --> 01:24:17,040
talk to the assat block they talk about

2266
01:24:21,510 --> 01:24:19,440
vampires and werewolves a lot but

2267
01:24:22,709 --> 01:24:21,520
it's not really something that i spent

2268
01:24:24,310 --> 01:24:22,719
any time

2269
01:24:25,750 --> 01:24:24,320
you know what i mean when i first

2270
01:24:27,590 --> 01:24:25,760
started doing this show i thought it

2271
01:24:28,950 --> 01:24:27,600
would be one of those things that would

2272
01:24:31,830 --> 01:24:28,960
come up a lot but it sort of doesn't

2273
01:24:34,709 --> 01:24:31,840
come out much at all you know

2274
01:24:35,750 --> 01:24:34,719
apart from when i mentioned it

2275
01:24:41,350 --> 01:24:35,760
yeah

2276
01:24:43,270 --> 01:24:41,360
have you any experiences of van pastual

2277
01:24:44,470 --> 01:24:43,280
yet

2278
01:24:56,470 --> 01:24:44,480
i

2279
01:24:59,830 --> 01:24:56,480
them has passed away

2280
01:25:02,070 --> 01:24:59,840
and the other one is called shaun

2281
01:25:04,229 --> 01:25:02,080
manchester

2282
01:25:05,990 --> 01:25:04,239
yeah is this really good about

2283
01:25:10,149 --> 01:25:06,000
um

2284
01:25:11,990 --> 01:25:10,159
sean had a very big beef with david and

2285
01:25:13,830 --> 01:25:12,000
i can't remember his surname do forgive

2286
01:25:14,709 --> 01:25:13,840
me um

2287
01:25:18,070 --> 01:25:14,719
and

2288
01:25:19,510 --> 01:25:18,080
the tv people have made a program about

2289
01:25:21,590 --> 01:25:19,520
her and i thought oh i'm gonna have to

2290
01:25:22,790 --> 01:25:21,600
i'm gonna have to watch that it looks

2291
01:25:24,709 --> 01:25:22,800
interesting

2292
01:25:26,870 --> 01:25:24,719
but donna is the guy you want to talk to

2293
01:25:28,390 --> 01:25:26,880
about all that yeah

2294
01:25:30,709 --> 01:25:28,400
and i just thought

2295
01:25:32,470 --> 01:25:30,719
it just sort of reading through the ins

2296
01:25:35,510 --> 01:25:32,480
and outs and everything and it just

2297
01:25:38,070 --> 01:25:35,520
escalated into just like whoa it was

2298
01:25:46,149 --> 01:25:38,080
just background manchester he's he talks

2299
01:25:50,870 --> 01:25:48,790
a fiction fictional book that he wrote

2300
01:25:52,070 --> 01:25:50,880
and he knows all about the highgate

2301
01:25:53,750 --> 01:25:52,080
stuff and he knows all about this

2302
01:25:56,390 --> 01:25:53,760
nonsense if you want to know what all

2303
01:25:58,310 --> 01:25:56,400
the real deal stuff talk to donaire

2304
01:26:00,629 --> 01:25:58,320
i'll tell you okay

2305
01:26:01,910 --> 01:26:00,639
it just struck me as quite

2306
01:26:03,590 --> 01:26:01,920
it

2307
01:26:06,390 --> 01:26:03,600
i don't know the inside you know but i

2308
01:26:08,149 --> 01:26:06,400
just i was reading like oh my god you

2309
01:26:10,149 --> 01:26:08,159
know you can imagine this play being

2310
01:26:12,790 --> 01:26:10,159
played out if facebook had existed back

2311
01:26:14,629 --> 01:26:12,800
in the 70s it would have been horrific

2312
01:26:15,910 --> 01:26:14,639
absolutely horrific but i like something

2313
01:26:17,990 --> 01:26:15,920
you just mentioned

2314
01:26:19,990 --> 01:26:18,000
there are people out there who are

2315
01:26:21,189 --> 01:26:20,000
emotional vampires who suck and yeah

2316
01:26:22,950 --> 01:26:21,199
that's true

2317
01:26:25,030 --> 01:26:22,960
they do

2318
01:26:27,830 --> 01:26:25,040
i know you've experienced etc on on

2319
01:26:29,030 --> 01:26:27,840
facebook and everything you do get you

2320
01:26:30,310 --> 01:26:29,040
your um

2321
01:26:32,070 --> 01:26:30,320
i don't know whole character

2322
01:26:33,830 --> 01:26:32,080
assassination it's like it's like a

2323
01:26:37,110 --> 01:26:33,840
vampire isn't it really

2324
01:26:38,790 --> 01:26:37,120
that sort of attacks you and uh can

2325
01:26:41,430 --> 01:26:38,800
drain you i know

2326
01:26:43,270 --> 01:26:41,440
but um i actually was doing a paranormal

2327
01:26:45,350 --> 01:26:43,280
investigation with somebody who was like

2328
01:26:47,189 --> 01:26:45,360
a sinkhole

2329
01:26:49,669 --> 01:26:47,199
i don't think they were like purposely

2330
01:26:50,709 --> 01:26:49,679
vampiring but they were just like a pit

2331
01:26:53,110 --> 01:26:50,719
where all

2332
01:26:55,830 --> 01:26:53,120
nothing could fill this person

2333
01:26:58,470 --> 01:26:55,840
it was every time i walked there i felt

2334
01:26:59,830 --> 01:26:58,480
so ill like and

2335
01:27:03,189 --> 01:26:59,840
we were

2336
01:27:05,750 --> 01:27:03,199
and

2337
01:27:06,870 --> 01:27:05,760
stuff going on two of us in the cellar

2338
01:27:09,590 --> 01:27:06,880
in this pub

2339
01:27:11,669 --> 01:27:09,600
and it literally was kicking off

2340
01:27:13,270 --> 01:27:11,679
and this guy made us all stop and sit

2341
01:27:17,750 --> 01:27:13,280
around in the circle so he could pretend

2342
01:27:21,030 --> 01:27:19,669
all absolutely this is just i can't do

2343
01:27:24,390 --> 01:27:21,040
it anymore i can't honestly do it

2344
01:27:26,629 --> 01:27:24,400
anymore it's all so fake

2345
01:27:28,470 --> 01:27:26,639
but yeah that guy he's like a he's like

2346
01:27:31,430 --> 01:27:28,480
a vampire but i don't think he knows

2347
01:27:33,110 --> 01:27:31,440
that he's just a single

2348
01:27:35,270 --> 01:27:33,120
hmm

2349
01:27:36,870 --> 01:27:35,280
was all the energy out of you you just

2350
01:27:38,390 --> 01:27:36,880
wanted to lie down on the floor and god

2351
01:27:40,390 --> 01:27:38,400
says yeah i do i don't know the top

2352
01:27:44,709 --> 01:27:40,400
person you mean

2353
01:27:49,990 --> 01:27:47,510
yeah well okay right on on that note i

2354
01:27:51,910 --> 01:27:50,000
guess um we can leave it there and

2355
01:27:57,030 --> 01:27:51,920
hopefully you'll enjoy

2356
01:28:01,910 --> 01:27:58,870
shattered all of a sudden yeah

2357
01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:03,669
yeah i've really enjoyed somebody this

2358
01:28:09,430 --> 01:28:05,360
just somebody must be dragging you down

2359
01:28:10,790 --> 01:28:09,440
now i feel psychically that's me yeah me

2360
01:28:11,750 --> 01:28:10,800
i know you weren't feeling too good but

2361
01:28:13,430 --> 01:28:11,760
i know you

2362
01:28:15,189 --> 01:28:13,440
it's very well just yeah yeah she wasn't

2363
01:28:17,990 --> 01:28:15,199
feeling too good but she's she's braved

2364
01:28:21,590 --> 01:28:18,000
it through so

2365
01:28:24,070 --> 01:28:21,600
go through the show yeah as always

2366
01:28:26,390 --> 01:28:24,080
no thank you thank you i've got things i

2367
01:28:28,550 --> 01:28:26,400
can take away here and sort of dig into

2368
01:28:29,669 --> 01:28:28,560
as well thank you no much it's been

2369
01:28:32,470 --> 01:28:29,679
great

2370
01:28:35,110 --> 01:28:32,480
like this it's my favorite things this

2371
01:28:37,270 --> 01:28:35,120
was paranormal truth too

2372
01:28:38,470 --> 01:28:37,280
no doubt we'll have a paranormal truth

2373
01:28:39,510 --> 01:28:38,480
number three

2374
01:28:40,629 --> 01:28:39,520
probably

2375
01:28:41,669 --> 01:28:40,639
about the middle of next year or

2376
01:28:43,750 --> 01:28:41,679
something

2377
01:28:45,350 --> 01:28:43,760
and um see what we'll see what other

2378
01:28:46,950 --> 01:28:45,360
subjects we've got a few things coming

2379
01:28:50,950 --> 01:28:46,960
up won't be such a like

2380
01:28:53,270 --> 01:28:50,960
with with the initial cg cg coming up in

2381
01:28:54,310 --> 01:28:53,280
december so no doubt there'll be a few

2382
01:28:58,229 --> 01:28:54,320
things

2383
01:29:04,550 --> 01:29:00,550
with it today so no i'll remember later

2384
01:29:10,070 --> 01:29:07,430
it's got a green in it

2385
01:29:12,550 --> 01:29:10,080
oh oh guys yeah yeah we got that coming

2386
01:29:16,390 --> 01:29:12,560
up quite a bit later on so

2387
01:29:22,830 --> 01:29:19,350
you're out as subtle as a brick

2388
01:29:27,590 --> 01:29:25,669
yeah now like whatever it's been going

2389
01:29:30,229 --> 01:29:27,600
to come out forever it's coming out on

2390
01:29:31,910 --> 01:29:30,239
the day that in the anniversary of when

2391
01:29:34,629 --> 01:29:31,920
nothing happened

2392
01:29:36,790 --> 01:29:34,639
uh yeah and none of the

2393
01:29:38,790 --> 01:29:36,800
witnesses want anything to do with it

2394
01:29:40,709 --> 01:29:38,800
like you know it was four years in the

2395
01:29:42,790 --> 01:29:40,719
making wasn't it

2396
01:29:44,950 --> 01:29:42,800
yeah birthday all that look mind you

2397
01:29:47,590 --> 01:29:44,960
busty might have uh answered a few

2398
01:29:50,390 --> 01:29:47,600
questions but anyway

2399
01:29:53,430 --> 01:29:50,400
yeah i hope i hope it's a success i hope

2400
01:29:55,270 --> 01:29:53,440
it's an absolute blinder of a success

2401
01:29:56,950 --> 01:29:55,280
and that millions of people worldwide

2402
01:29:59,110 --> 01:29:56,960
see it and then they all go to the

2403
01:30:00,709 --> 01:29:59,120
internet and then they find my blog and

2404
01:30:01,750 --> 01:30:00,719
they realize what a [\h__\h]

2405
01:30:05,830 --> 01:30:01,760
well

2406
01:30:07,990 --> 01:30:05,840
sasha the bigger that gets the bigger

2407
01:30:09,430 --> 01:30:08,000
the exposure

2408
01:30:11,350 --> 01:30:09,440
yeah so

2409
01:30:12,629 --> 01:30:11,360
but anyway yeah we shall wait and see

2410
01:30:15,189 --> 01:30:12,639
all of you

2411
01:30:21,270 --> 01:30:15,199
in all of new york is waiting oh my god

2412
01:30:26,390 --> 01:30:23,189
there's a few people whose names would

2413
01:30:28,390 --> 01:30:26,400
make your eyebrows literally flooded

2414
01:30:29,990 --> 01:30:28,400
and we've been waiting

2415
01:30:31,990 --> 01:30:30,000
i know i'll be waiting for her yeah it

2416
01:30:34,229 --> 01:30:32,000
seems like forever

2417
01:30:36,310 --> 01:30:34,239
that it's not you know i mean he's he's

2418
01:30:37,590 --> 01:30:36,320
made so many lies so much for the whole

2419
01:30:39,189 --> 01:30:37,600
so much that we're supposed to be scared

2420
01:30:40,629 --> 01:30:39,199
of it coming out oh i can't wait for it

2421
01:30:42,070 --> 01:30:40,639
to come out

2422
01:30:43,830 --> 01:30:42,080
are we are we supposed to be scared of

2423
01:30:45,350 --> 01:30:43,840
it apparently yeah we're probably

2424
01:30:57,669 --> 01:30:45,360
frightened of all the all the things

2425
01:31:01,830 --> 01:30:59,830
become clearer later in the year but

2426
01:31:04,310 --> 01:31:01,840
yeah we can't really do a show about it

2427
01:31:05,990 --> 01:31:04,320
no we can't but

2428
01:31:08,070 --> 01:31:06,000
until it comes out then maybe we can do

2429
01:31:09,350 --> 01:31:08,080
an expose about it because it's because

2430
01:31:11,750 --> 01:31:09,360
it's out there and it's in the public

2431
01:31:13,830 --> 01:31:11,760
domain so

2432
01:31:15,270 --> 01:31:13,840
it's not worth it for other people

2433
01:31:17,750 --> 01:31:15,280
around us

2434
01:31:20,149 --> 01:31:17,760
but um anyway we'll leave it there and

2435
01:31:21,590 --> 01:31:20,159
thank you again sasha and juliette for

2436
01:31:23,830 --> 01:31:21,600
coming on

2437
01:31:26,229 --> 01:31:23,840
yeah and uh no doubt as i say there'll

2438
01:31:27,270 --> 01:31:26,239
be a paranormal truth number three later

2439
01:31:28,390 --> 01:31:27,280
on

2440
01:31:31,270 --> 01:31:28,400
but

2441
01:31:33,189 --> 01:31:31,280
anyway enjoy halloween

2442
01:31:34,709 --> 01:31:33,199
oh well it's my birthday i was born on

2443
01:31:36,470 --> 01:31:34,719
the day of the day all right yeah i

2444
01:31:37,910 --> 01:31:36,480
remember that's right we'll go go out

2445
01:31:41,990 --> 01:31:37,920
and do a bit haunting on that night and

2446
01:31:45,990 --> 01:31:43,430
he should have been born on halloween

2447
01:31:47,750 --> 01:31:46,000
but he was born on the 30th so

2448
01:31:50,390 --> 01:31:47,760
you're going to laugh at what i'm doing

2449
01:31:52,229 --> 01:31:50,400
it's kind of like i'm going to be going

2450
01:31:53,110 --> 01:31:52,239
to a book launch

2451
01:31:55,270 --> 01:31:53,120
sort of

2452
01:31:56,870 --> 01:31:55,280
near jingle hall oh yeah we didn't talk

2453
01:31:58,950 --> 01:31:56,880
about jingle bells just that was a witch

2454
01:32:00,390 --> 01:31:58,960
as well

2455
01:32:04,229 --> 01:32:00,400
i already look like one so i don't

2456
01:32:07,350 --> 01:32:06,310
let me broom out i can be myself for a

2457
01:32:25,030 --> 01:32:07,360
day

2458
01:32:28,790 --> 01:32:26,950
on the paranormal uk radio network i'm

2459
01:32:30,070 --> 01:32:28,800
david young hope you enjoyed that and i

2460
01:32:41,590 --> 01:32:30,080
hope you'll join me again next week

2461
01:32:47,510 --> 01:32:44,149
listen to them

2462
01:32:50,010 --> 01:32:47,520
children of the night

2463
01:32:58,840 --> 01:32:50,020
what music they

2464
01:33:48,870 --> 01:33:42,830
[Music]

2465
01:33:53,350 --> 01:33:50,870
paranormal dimensions is a regular